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- So in other words, once a divide began to occur between women about sex, and one side started calling the other side names, the side that was called names was justified in turning around and saying "you hate sex." Well,
(posted to Against Western feminists?) - The moderation is 100% necessary a lot of the time; every single non-moderated thread on a trans-related topic fills up with all sorts of nasty transphobic comments. No, it doesn't matter whether they're said "in a disrespectful way" - even
(posted to Kiss and tell ) - Unlike what you're suggesting I've never equated trans women to male rapists. Not once. No, you "just" called for trans women to be banned from female bathrooms in case male rapists get in and rape women (presumably forcing them to
(posted to Kiss and tell ) - Being a victim doesn't justify everything, and I'm pretty sure this was one of those unjustifiable things. cattrack2 was calling for trans women - and only trans women - to be forced into the exact same dangerous situation in which
(posted to Kiss and tell ) - Apparently, laws generally only penalize the person carrying out the abortion, not the woman receiving it.
(posted to Utah Criminalizes Illegal Abortion Charging Criminal Homicide. )
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- Protecting women is neither the point of the "double-homicide" laws nor these laws. They are similar in that both are aimed at protecting the fetus, which in the view of the lawmakers, deserves more protection than the woman whose body (posted to Utah Criminalizes Illegal Abortion Charging Criminal Homicide. )
- Thanks Puckalish for the 411...If they've maintained language which creates a crime out of everyday behavior then I'd have to agree that its a bad bill...this language since it still has the word "reckless" in it seems like an older (posted to Utah Criminalizes Illegal Abortion Charging Criminal Homicide. )
- I believe there's a difference between illegal and criminal, like when they talk about de-criminalizing marijuana for example. But I'm not clear on the details. Maybe getting a citation like a ticket vs getting arrested? (posted to Utah Criminalizes Illegal Abortion Charging Criminal Homicide. )
- Right. Because, I thought, initially, abortions were made illegal if carried out by hacks and quacks and people with no expertise, presumably because they could harm the woman. So it was supposedly to "protect the woman," to prevent frauds from (posted to Utah Criminalizes Illegal Abortion Charging Criminal Homicide. )
- I don't care for the double-homicide law, either, but I don't think one can deny that the very state of pregnancy is obviously some motivator for violence in many cases, and that should be addressed. (posted to Utah Criminalizes Illegal Abortion Charging Criminal Homicide. )
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