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"I call myself a feminist," said the Dalai Lama in Memphis yesterday. "Isn't that what you call someone who fights for women's rights?"

Researchers have made some progress toward creating an AIDS vaccine.

How feminist are German Chancellor Angela Merkel's policies?

The New York Times Magazine has a piece on kids who come out in middle school.

Um, 3-year-old Suri Cruise is wearing heels? WTF? (Reminds me of these.)

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[0+] Author Profile Page Pantheon said:

I had a pair of plastic high heels in the dress up box at that age, but I don't think my parents would have let me wear them outside the house. They weren't really meant to be real shoes. So I guess if she's a kid playing occasional dress up and her mom let her wear it outside, that's fine. But if her parents are actually having her walk around in heels as an every day thing, that's really strange, and probably bad for her feet or back or something...

[0+] Author Profile Page ElleStar replied to Pantheon :

I remember reading this. It was a different article though, because they wrote that Suri was in her sneakers within an hour.

I had a thing for high heels when I was little. Having something like this would have sent me over the moon. As it was, I wasn't allowed (nor do I think I could ever find any) heels until I was 12. But I would always try to find the smallest pair of heels in shoe stores and walk around in them.

Funny. Now that I'm big enough, I never wear them.

[0+] Author Profile Page sparky17 said:

Really? Baby heels? Have parents forgotten that heels are HORRIBLE for your back and feet/knees? They do permanent damage! Its definitely not the best thing to instill into your 3 year old. O well. As long as she looks "cute" I guess her physical health doesn't matter.

[0+] Author Profile Page borrow_tunnel replied to sparky17 :

Well now I feel stupid! I always heard that heels were a good workout for the calves, so I assumed they were healthy! I'll be wearing tennies more often now...

[0+] Author Profile Page Liza replied to sparky17 :

I think they look like the kind that comes in the cardboard thing at the drugstore. You know, with the tiara, the necklace and the fake lipstick. My guess is she was probably just playing and insisted on wearing them outside, much like she probably insisted on carrying the stuffed elephant.

thats what i was thinking.

thats what i was thinking.

I get the impression that people who raise up Merkel as this amazing feminist icon often fail to realise that she's from our conservative party. Admittedly, our conservative party is probably to the left of the Democrats, but still. I've been badly out of touch with German politics but I was never even remotely under the impression that Merkel was doing great work in the realm of women's rights. So in that part the article is something of a "well, duh".

...except for this part, which is just infuriating: Yet, the toughness that made her the darling of economic liberals scared female voters off. After the election it turned out that more women voted for macho chancellor Gerhard Schröder of the Social Democrats (SPD) than Merkel's CDU

...oh, and it couldn't have anything to do with the fact that they are two entirely different parties with entirely different agendas? Maybe women were feeling a bit more left-wing that year, maybe the SPD's policies were more women-friendly (which would not be at all surprising given that they were our main progressive/left-wing party at the time, Merkel being female notwithstanding)? Maybe German elections tend to be less personality-driven and more policy-driven than the US equivalents? (I'm not even sure who one of the main candidates /is/ for Sunday's election.) No, it must be because they were scared away by a woman acting tough!

[0+] Author Profile Page elbu replied to Zailyn :

Exactly. I've only ever seen/heard Angela Merkel described as good news for feminists by people outside Germany. To quote feministing's 'Palin doesn't speak for me' T-Shirt: A woman chancellor is not the same as a woman's chancellor.

[0+] Author Profile Page sonia said:

i'm reading the new york times piece on coming out in middle school and find it quite neat. i came out when i was 13 but have only now (at 17)begun going to the pride centre, youth groups, GSAs, all that.

[0+] Author Profile Page Shadowen said:

The Dalai Lama quote is great. Unfortunately, he follows it up with a "Women tend more towards compassion because they have the responsibility of birthing children" bit. It's a positive generalization--mostly (it doesn't even have a rider that women are worse at some things but that's okay because they're compassionate)--but it's still a generalization.

Ah, well. Try getting something even half so feminist out of Pope Benny.

[0+] Author Profile Page DalekSec replied to Shadowen :

Meh. Great, warmhearted man, but even boddhisatvas aren't perfect.

[0+] Author Profile Page Hypatia replied to Shadowen :

Yeah. Its nice to hear a religious leader call HIMself a "feminist", but...

Maybe the quote could be interpreted as: women deserve more respect than we give then in our society, as so many of them tend to carry the responsibilities of birthing and caring for children.

But its not far from saying that women's only worth in society is birthing/nurturing children, and that's all they should do. And that reminds me of the Handmaid's Tale.

Still, I like how he easily claimed the label of "feminist": “Isn’t that what you call someone who fights for women’s rights?” Yes, feminism IS actually that simple.
Going by that definition, why are people in the media so afraid of the term?

[0+] Author Profile Page DalekSec replied to Hypatia :

Sounds more like he's saying that childrearing bestows a unique perspective that is useful elsewhere, not that it's a boundary. May not be true, but the sentiment is noble.

[0+] Author Profile Page Shy Mox replied to Shadowen :

In Buddhism we have a whole sutra called The Filial Sutra (You can read it here: http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/filial-sutra.htm ) that talks about how one should be grateful for parents. Looking back it is sexist as it lands women in only one role, but to be fair that was the way it was back then, and The Dalai Lama is an old fashioned guy in many respects so its not surprising to hear.

Still, I'm glad he identified as a feminist, maybe a lot of other Buddhists I know will get over their fear of using the label XD I wish he was sex positive though.

[0+] Author Profile Page alixana replied to Shadowen :

It would have been nice if he'd acknowledged/encouraged compassion in men.

[0+] Author Profile Page Nepenthe replied to alixana :

... He's the emanation of the Bodhisattva of Compassion. His entire purpose on earth is to encourage compassion for sentient beings.

I mean, if you believe that sort of thing.

Point being, he is. That's his deal.

[0+] Author Profile Page alixana replied to Nepenthe :

Obviously, but yet he still felt the need to trot out the women tend MORE towards compassion meme. If women tend MORE towards compassion because they go through childbirth, then the natural flipside means that men lean LESS towards compassion because they're not squeezing a 7 pound baby from their loins. Which is BS. Since his existence revolves around compassion, why say anything that discourages half the population from aspiring towards it? And then there's the whole uncomfortable pedestal aspect.

[0+] Author Profile Page Alessa replied to alixana :

You can't argue in that way with a man like this. There is no "hidden meaning", there is no subtle attempt to make men seem less compassionate. What he said is exactly what he meant, and while you are definitely entitled to nitpick, it's a huge waste of time with him because that is not what he is all about. In Buddhism, being pro one thing definitely does not mean being anti another. Anyone outside of the religion might have difficulty understanding this, but when he says that women are compassionate he is not referring to a flip-side. There is no flip-side. Women are compassionate. Men don't enter the picture.

Technically he isn't supposed to be anti or pro anything, but neutral and accepting of the condition of life and suffering.

"All life is suffering, the cause of suffering is desire, suffering can be ended, the way to end suffering is the noble eightfold path" these are the four noble truths by which he and all Buddhists try to live their lives. The Noble Eightfold Path is (and this is a ridiculously simple overview) essentially a series of guidelines that Buddhists follow in order to realize the truth in life - and some of the behaviors that are taken from the Noble Eightfold Path is a lack of attachment, a lack of pride, and an abundance of compassion, and overall an acceptance that permeates through every element of your life.

So why would a man like this purposely try to make men seem less compassionate? It goes against everything he stands for. I'll state again, he doesn't have to be against something in order to be for something else. It's not the way the religion works.

Something about that article about kids who come out in middle school kind of rubs me the wrong way. Don't get me wrong. It's fantastic that kids are feeling free to come out at younger ages. It will spare them a tremendous amount of anguish later in life.

The section in which the gay youth states that at least half of the females he talked to identified as bisexual troubles me. Again, there's something freeing and liberating about the fact that middle school kids don't feel that the bisexual label has a strong taboo attached to it anymore, but pardon me for saying this, there is no way that they could all be bisexual themselves. I suppose this is probably my own bisexuality speaking and my recognition that true bisexuality is at a proportion far below this kind of harmless, but juvenile sexual experimentation.

I'm not envious that self-identifying as less than straight is socially acceptable, but I also know that false bisexuality among women is also a tactic used to appeal to the whims of heterosexual men in a spirit of degrading frivolity. I almost feel like I shouldn't be making as big a deal out of this as I am, but even so...

[0+] Author Profile Page MarySophia replied to Comrade Kevin :

OK, so I haven't read this article, but here's my two cents anyway. Most women I know identify as straight. And most women that I've spoken with about it have been attracted to at least one other woman at some point in their life. And when you're in early adolescence and just beginning to understand your own sexuality, that often times translates as believing yourself to be bisexual. This isn't to disagree that much of it probably has an element of desire to appeal to heterosexual men, but it's also, I think, a bit of solidarity with the gay community and honest attraction to women.

[0+] Author Profile Page margosita replied to Comrade Kevin :

I felt the same way, honestly. There were lots of boys in the article who identified as gay, but not a single girl (that was named or spoken to individually) that identified as a lesbian. Yet vast majority of the studnents in in the gay student support group identified as bisexual girls.

what gives?

I think it's complicated and part of my opinions are formed by recently being a teenage girl, and one who identifies as straight, but was very physcially affectionate with my girl friends in high school. I'm also a girl who has kissed and made out with my girl friends in an exploring/what would this be like? kind of way. I bring it up to say that I know what it's like to be attracted to women I find beautiful, and be curious about some sexual touching with women. But primarily, when I'm horny, I want to fool around with a guy and I wouldn't call myself bi, as I've only ever dated/slept with men.

I can't help but feeling like identifying as bi for girls comes out of other desires beyond actual bisexuality... like being fed images women as beautiful sex objects, or wanting to be "different" or wanting to claim an idenity that isn't subjucated to male sexuality the way women's heterosexuality is almost all the time. I can't say that those aren't valid emotions, or valid reasons to want to date someone of your same gender. But I do feel like there is more going on there for girls sexuality than the article mentions.

I hope this is just the beginning of the trend and that even younger generations stop feeling the need to lable their sexualities at all.

[0+] Author Profile Page Gopher replied to Comrade Kevin :

Actually, I wouldnt be surprised if those females really were bisexual. When I was in middle school I identified as bi (still do) and slept with other girls who, though they enjoyed sex (I'm not just talking about kissing, or experimenting, but repeat sex)with females would always say that theyre just 'practicing' for the boys. I think it was a cover for what they were really feeling but didnt want to admit. I dont think they were practicing for the boys, I think they liked it but knew that it wasnt mainstream. Fear of being a lesbian was also probably part of it. So maybe more girls are bisexual since there is less taboo among females for having sexual activity with someone of the same gender. Maybe they can feel more open about it today. The women who I used to have sex with (which continued to high school until we went to college) would all identify as straight today, but I think thats more out of conformism than anything.

[0+] Author Profile Page Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi replied to Comrade Kevin :

While I agree about the degrading aspect of "bi for male attention," I don't think it's anyone's job to draw lines in the sand about who's a "real" bisexual. Maybe it's juvenile sexual experimentation, maybe it's acknowledgement of sexual fluidity before the age when people are encouraged to "pick a side." Maybe those two things aren't mutually exclusive. I do think that once you have your feet firmly planted in either a straight or gay identity, there's a tendency to dismiss and devalue attractions that don't fit into that identity. So in a way it's liberating that a girl who is 90% attracted to men can own up the other 10% instead of dismissing it as a "girl crush."

I do find it interesting how quickly things have shifted in the eight to ten years since I've been in middle school. For my part, as soon as I identified my attraction to women and general lack of interest in men, I jumped onto the "lesbian" label and clung to it. I didn't know anyone in middle school who identified as bi. It was only later that I realized yes, there are some men I'm attracted to, and being bisexual doesn't mean I have to be equally attracted to men and women.

[0+] Author Profile Page Athenia replied to Comrade Kevin :

Yeah, that part of the article made me think of the recent article about female sexuality in the....I forget which morning NY newspaper.

Basically, the study they talked about asserted that male sexuality (whether homo or hetero) is less fluid than female sexuality. (i.e. women react to all kinds of sexual images where as the men do not)

I also read in another study in the book Forbidden Fruit, which also reports that a significant amount of girls report being bi in their teens (and same-sex attraction), but as they hit their twenties, they no longer identify as such.

[0+] Author Profile Page Devonian said:

If they ever perfect that AIDS vaccine, the backlash is going to make the resistance to the HPV vaccine look like nothing...

[0+] Author Profile Page americanaexotica replied to Devonian :

That is exactly what I thought when I was reading. the whole time i was thinking, i wonder if this is going to make people worry that women will have too much sex too. however, once it comes out it will probably be aimed towards men and women, which could help. I thought part of the problem with the HPV vaccine is that it was only aimed at girls and women.

[0+] Author Profile Page Abby B. said:

Silly comment, but woooo, name check for UNL in the NYT article!!

[0+] Author Profile Page gothicguera said:

"I call myself a feminist," said the Dalai Lama in Memphis yesterday. "Isn't that what you call someone who fights for women's rights?"
yessssssssssssssssssssssssss
This made my day!

[0+] Author Profile Page Alessa said:

I love the Dalai Lama. I don't care about the compassionate remark, primarily because he would be completely open to every single one of the comments that we could say in response to that, and take it to heart and remember it. He might be old-fashioned in some respects, but he is so open in every way, because that's what his religion dictates he should be.

Fabulous. This made my day.

[0+] Author Profile Page borrow_tunnel said:

In response to the Suri Cruise picture, I'd just like everyone to compare her mom's parenting style to that of Angelina Jolie, further evidence of Jolie probably being feminist or womanist or woman-friendly or ...whatever:

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b145681_angelina_jolie_takes_tykes_out_toys.html

[0+] Author Profile Page abileen replied to borrow_tunnel :

that's actually pretty awesome

[0+] Author Profile Page Patti replied to borrow_tunnel :

I saw these pictures earlier today on some other site with no accompanying text, and I honestly didn't notice anything "wrong". My first thought was "It's the boy? No, the boy is younger, it is Shiloh.", yes, but I didn't realize it's because of how she's dressed. Maybe it's because they're so confident about it, or because I've always been a tomboy. Either way it's awesome. :D

[0+] Author Profile Page ooperbooper said:

I had a pair of heels that I wore out occasionally when I was little. I also sometimes paired a tutu and hiking boots. Now, maybe Suri has a stylist... okay, she probably has a stylist... but the point is that little people like to dress up (little boys too). Sometimes it involves heels, sometimes it involves animal costumes or hiking boots or a tiara. I just can't get worked up over this...

[0+] Author Profile Page allegra replied to ooperbooper :

Yeah, I was definitely into the dress-up thing when I was little, mostly the enormous '80s beaded clip-on earrings. Ha. And I loved ballet leotards and was obsessed with pointe shoes. I know the ballet thing is very girly, but dance truly was my passion and I eventually went on to study it in college - including its sexist history. So while the heels are annoying, I'm aware that people could have said the same things about me and my goddamn leotards and clip-on earrings.

I knew I found the right path to follow when I found His Holiness. :-)

[0+] Author Profile Page Ellen Marie-Frances said:

the Dalai Lama is my homeboy!

[0+] Author Profile Page Ellen Marie-Frances said:

the Dalai Lama is my homeboy!

[0+] Author Profile Page FTDL said:

Yeah, well, the Dalai Lama is still infected with a moldy old religion. It's great that he's on the right side of a lot of things and that his religion is perhaps less benighted than the one eating the brains of so many in the US, but he's still a pompous religious asshole.

[0+] Author Profile Page Brittany replied to FTDL :

I realize that this is a place where you can voice your opinion, but I find your comment ironic.

You're stating that he's the "pompous religious asshole", but it seems your own ego-driven hatred of anyone religious is quite pompous and asshole-ish to me, since you think you're as right as anyone religious thinks they themselves are right in what they believe. I know that not all of the women here are atheists, so you might want to tone down your extremist opinions in the future.

For the record, I'm agnostic.

[0+] Author Profile Page FTDL replied to Brittany :
your own ego-driven hatred of anyone religious

Um, no, that's an absurd extrapolation. (And why do people always read so much between the lines when religion is disparaged?)

I am an asshole sometimes. But wait, you think I'm an asshole because I think I'm right? In other words, because I think that made-up religious bullshit just doesn't cut it in this world?

[0+] Author Profile Page Alessa replied to FTDL :

No, I think you're an asshole because you are BEING one in your rude, in-your-face comments that have absolutely no contribution whatsoever to the conversation and only serve to offend people who are religious.

[0+] Author Profile Page Alessa replied to FTDL :

Uhhhh.....

What? Are you kidding me?

You clearly know absolutely nothing about Buddhism, and especially Tibetan Buddhism.

Some argue that Buddhism isn't even a religion because of it's focus on the condition of life. Maybe you could try learning a bit about something before bashing it and claiming it has nothing worthwhile? Instead, your self-righteousness is what comes off as pompous.

I am a Buddhist, and I am INCREDIBLY offended by your comment.

It is an offensive comment, yes. But, it's no different than the comments levied against Christians, Muslims and Jews when their religions are spoken about here. If equality is a virtue, equal opportunity ignorance must surely be one ;-)

[0+] Author Profile Page Alessa replied to Gular :

I completely, wholeheartedly agree. It's too bad one can't see all of my past comments, because it's fairly common for Christianity to be bashed here and I often defend it (or aspects of it) in addition to Judaism and Islam. Fortunately there isn't as much Islam bashing here, but there has been some against Judaism, and always a lot against Christianity.

I know exactly what you're saying. It surprised me to see Buddhism get it too. Religion in general, I think, is a very very touchy subject that deserves an extremely high level of respect whenever it is criticized, and I think some people can forget what a personal thing it is.

I try to do so, as well. Religion tends to get this knee-jerk angry reaction from people here. Religion isn't all bad!

[0+] Author Profile Page Hrovitnir replied to Gular :

Well, I'm not horribly offended because I'm sure he would not be offended. It's just laughably off-base.

You cannot compare Buddism to monotheist religions, they are far too dissimilar.

But you are quite right that people should be as respectful of monotheist religions as any other belief system, including agnotism and atheism.

[0+] Author Profile Page SamLL replied to FTDL :

I strongly recommend reading some of the Dalai Lama's books before jumping to the conclusion you have reached here.

I am an atheist and the Dalai Lama is one of my personal role models.

The Dalai Lama actively studies other religions to gain insight into the universality of the human condition and the various ways in which humanity copes with, overcomes and accepts that condition. I saw His Holiness speak when he came to my area and he blatantly said that any path you choose to find your peace with the world -- whether you become Buddhist, Christian, Jainist, Muslim or any other religion -- then it is the Right Path.

The Buddha actively challenged his followers to question everything to find their right path out of life's suffering. They told them to challenge him, too.

I'm a bit at a loss to understand how can you can what you've said knowing anything about Buddhism at all. Or maybe that's it?

[0+] Author Profile Page Jjuliaava replied to FTDL :

RIGHT ON!! I wrote a research paper on Tibet, and come to find out: before China took control over the region in 1950>> *IT WAS UNDER A MEDIEVAL FEUDAL SYSTEM WHERE 95% OF LAND WAS CONTROLLED BY THE CHURCH!!! CAN YOU SAY SLAVERY??? IF YOU BELIEVE IN A FREE TIBET, YOU BELIEVE IN SLAVERY. children are systematically molested in temples. debts and taxes on serfs are handed down to great-grandchildren. people are glad to have a modernized economic system. "Free tibet" is propaganda.

[0+] Author Profile Page Lily A replied to Jjuliaava :

IF YOU BELIEVE IN A FREE TIBET, YOU BELIEVE IN SLAVERY

Just because the system was so oppressive 60 years ago doesn't mean that it would be the exact same way today if Tibet were independent.

And the system in Iraq was plenty oppressive... does that mean another country has the right to occupy it? Just because a country operates under an oppressive system doesn't mean another country has the right to take over and institute its own oppressive system.

[0+] Author Profile Page Brittany said:

Ahhh, those high heals.

I remember when I was in third grade, my mother would force me into a dress and high heels. I would go into school all so the teacher could "awww" all over me, but I personally hated feeling like a doll and fell all the time because said high heels were throwing my off my balance. I think that's part of the reason I ended up throwing them out the window by the end of the year and telling my mother I had lost them.

[0+] Author Profile Page Brittany replied to Brittany :

Bah. *Heels

[0+] Author Profile Page Ian said:

"The audience erupted in laughter and applause. The Dalai Lama went to on say that women are more prone to compassion, since they have the responsibility of bearing children."

Sorry, but no. Something about this statement just strikes me as very wrong. No one has the "responsibility" to bear children. Its the same "Women love babies and are just so loving and emotional!" only with a positive spin on it. Granted some women have the ability to give birth, but its their bodies. They have no "responsibility" to have children.

I would be bias if I didn't criticize that statement.

[0+] Author Profile Page SamLL replied to Ian :

I think you may be reading more into the Dalai Lama's statement than is there. I don't think he was using "responsibility" in the sense that each woman is required to bear children.

I think he was saying that, when children are born, it is always done by women, and that bearing children is a practice that can tend to increase compassion (obviously in particular, towards the newborn!). I'm not a Buddhist, but I believe a meditative practice for developing compassion is to imagine everyone you know as though they were your mother, and to develop a sense of connectedness and gratefulness towards them. Building up compassion towards others by practices is a central part of Buddhism, and I can see why the Dalai Lama might think childbirth would be a practice that would do that.

I can absolutely see why the comment would rub you the wrong way, but I think, from my understanding of his writings and descriptions of his way of thinking, that the Dalai Lama meant to imply only what I describe in the above paragraph.

I think this might be the curse of English being one of his second languages. I think "responsibility" in the sense of "can only be done by" not in the raising and parenting sense.

I have an almost three year old so seeing Suri Cruise in heels is pretty shocking. Yeah, I'm sure they make them in that size for playing and stuff but that doesn't mean you have to buy that stuff for your child. Why would you want your child to pretend they live in a sexist society in which women have to wear uncomfortable and dangerous shoes in order to be considered attractive?

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