
While I too, think that straight men can sadly be intimidated by women who love their vagina, this was upsetting. Another confession Fox divulged in her Rolling Stones interview was that she used to cut herself:
"Yeah...But I don't want to elaborate. I would never call myself a cutter. Girls go through different phases when they're growing up, when they're miserable and do different things, whether it's an eating disorder or they dabble in cutting."(Emphasis mine)
No biggie, just something girls "dabble in" as they grow up. Huh? While I respect her openness about her problem, normalizing pretty serious issues as just somethin' us gals do isn't sending her young emulating fans a good message here.
(Not to mention cutting seems to be more common in general among young actresses lately - and of course the media is eating it up. Heinous.)
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As someone recovered from an eating disorder and recovered from self-injury (and having been forced into treatment for both), it is always quite infuriating to me when people in the spotlight minimize the seriousness of either of these with phrases like "dabbled in" or "went through a phase of". These are serious conditions and you don't just "get over" them. They aren't for attention. I didn't really have an opinion on Megan Fox until I read that, and now I think she is reckless and irresponsible. I guess I "dabbled" for a bit (six years) and then got over it (at serious financial and opportunity cost).
I am writing from a place of extreme emotion on this subject, so you'll have to forgive my outburst!
I totally get where you're coming from, voluptuouspanic. But I would have been so grateful to hear a starlet say publicly, "Yeah, I dealt with depression and it sucked but I've bounced back," when I was a teenager. I realize depression and cutting are not one in the same but I think there's some value in taking the stigma out of serious problems. The word "dabbled" is unfortunate but maybe the intent was not to trivialize cutting but to de-stigmatize it.
Yes it is nice to know that these problems aren't rare or anything, but that's different than saying they're just phases that everyone goes through and dabbles in. That makes it sound like no big deal.
I know. "The cutting phase." Thats after eating disorders and before a new hairstyle post college, right?
Ugh.
I agree with this comment. I think it's important to consider Megan Fox's intent, voluptuouspanic.
It pisses me off when people treat something as serious as cutting like it's no big deal. It is an external sign of serious psychological problems, and it is by no means a healthy outlet or something harmless to "dabble" in. A friend of mine started cutting after her boyfriend left her, and she always tried to convince me that it was a normal and healthy way for her to deal with her grief. (Guess what? It's not.)
if you think it's just wrong you're going to have come up with a good reason why. did it endanger her health? maybe she went to the hospital for blood loss? skin infections? and if there weren't any medical problems, did she do it out of self-hatred? or was the problem that the thought of blood made you squeemish? do you think the scars are ugly? whose problem is that? why?
usually a disorder is defined by how much it bothers the person affected and how much it interferes with their ability to function normally. if it didn't bother her, and it didn't make her life much more difficult, and it didn't endanger her health, is it a disorder?
Self-injury is not necessarily a sign of 'serious psychological problems'. In many cases, it's a sign of serious environmental problems (abuse, neglect, etc.) which can in turn lead to serious psychological problems. This is an important distinction.
It's also important to keep in mind that, unless it is unusually severe, self-injury is no more dangerous than heavy drinking. Which isn't to say it's healthy, obviously... just that it isn't that incredibly bizarre.
Hmmmm...
First, I don't think criticizing starlets for not being "good role models" is particularly productive. And assuming that teenage girls run around emulating their famous idols is sort of insulting...
Not to mention that Megan Fox is extremely popular among teenage boys but not so much with teenage girls.
I don't necessarily think they are implying that girls follow her every move and depend on her in that sense, just that her actions to have an impact on our culture as a part of media/pop culture. But I do think you make a good point!
The response teenage boys has to teenage girls who cut is also important.
I'm not sure how I feel about this one. On the one hand, I obviously completely agree that the ideas she is expressing about eating disorders and cutting are harmful. I also think that role models should be more responsible, more intelligent about these issues, and better leaders. I just don't know if expecting Hollywood stars to step up and fill that role is the best solution; I wish we could, instead, give kids more appropriate role models and help them to look to them for guidance instead of the stars they see on tv and in the movies. If we did this, then young girls would hear a statement like Fox's and be able to understand its flaws ... or, if that's too high of an expectation, they would at least have people in their lives they could talk to who would give them a better perspective.
You should read de Zengotita's book Mediated. Especially the third chapter "Twilight of the Heroes".
Might explain some things.
At first when I read this I thought that admitting she was a cutter was a very brave thing for her to do. I have friends that used to do that in high school and some in college. I know how difficult it was for them to even admit to me (a close friend) that they cut themselves.
But then I looked at her wording and it just made me upset. She is minimizing it. Maybe that's her way of coping what she went through but still, not cool at all. Cutting is not just a "phase" or something girls "dabble" in. Neither is an eating disorder. These are serious problems and we do not need more people minimizing the severity of these issues.
I don't think she's trying to minimize the problem, but is just speaking in a passive tone because it's obviously something she's not 100% comfortable talking about. This is something from her past that she struggled with so the way she talks about it isn't going to be like a psychologist talking about it clinically or in the most politically correct way.
Which is why it would've been completely fine for her to say "I don't want to talk about it" and leave it at that. She herself said "I don't want to elaborate..." but then she went on and elaborated.
I don't think any of us here are saying she NEEDED to sound like a therapist or be the poster child for cutting or anything like that. But she chose to talk more about it and minimize the significance of a very serious issue.
Certainly trivializing cutting is problematic and could be downright dangerous when the attitude is presented to adolescents, but this post bothers me. She's not the first to say something like that and she's far from the worst. Nor is she very much of a role model to teenage girls, as someone above pointed out. I think because she is a mainstream actress who seems to have some feminist attitudes, feminists want to expect better from her, and are disappointed when we don't get what we expect, but this is the perspective she's putting onto her experience. As ooperbooper said, there is some value into taking the stigma out of serious problems like this, and I very much doubt that Fox wants to be defined by her experiences with cutting; maybe that's why she's so quick to brush it off.
Totally good point, from ooperbooper too. But I do think that it's important to acknowledge how your position as a public figure affects people who may look up to you.
I think this ties into the larger problem here, how the media exploits serious problems that young actresses have; that self-destructive behavior is hot news to them. It's sick.
I think the media does this sort of thing because the public loves to build up starlets so that we may then tear them down (see Spears, Britney). Yes perhaps Fox shouldn't have said what she did but what good will come of criticizing her for not being an appropriate role model? I understand what you were trying to do, Vanessa, I just don't see where you're going with it. Criticizing the media is one thing but criticizing Fox for being exploited by the media is a little different.
As a former cutter, attitudes like this bother me. The way she phrases her words suggests she thinks cutting is just another thing adolescent girls do. This could not be farther from the truth. Any time someone purposefully inflicts harm on their own body, there is something wrong.
It seems like the media has been paying more attention to cutting in recent years. When I did it I thought I was the only one and that I must be crazy and really messed up to do something like that. While I think openness about psychological disorders is key to getting rid of the stigma and helping people accept treatment, it also seems like people are being a little too casual about issues as serious as cutting. I hear more and more young girls talking about cutting with their friends, discussing things like what they use, where they do it, and how deep they cut, ect, etc. There are people who say people who talk about their cutting habit are just doing it for attention and do not really have a problem. But still, if people feel they need to do that to get attention, there is still a problem.
While I applaud her openness about something that is stigmatized and probably a painful experience for her, I cringe at her attitude that it's something teenage girls just go through. No one should have to go through cutting or an eating disorder.
It is arguable that no-one should have to go through the experience of being a teenage girl in our culture.
While they do, eating disorders and cutting will be pandemic and it does not cheapen them to acknowledge their ubiquity. If anything, it further reinforces their seriousness by not relegating them to some fringe that happens to alien others that no-one seems to know.
Everyone knows.
(this is not really addressed to the comment to which I hit reply - moreso to other comments that suggest the thing being argued against)
"Dabbled" was a poorly chosen word, but nothing else was trivializing about her acknowledgement of these issues' pervasiveness. Since when do we pile on survivors who don't represent their experience to our precise personal liking?
First: holy crap, that's Megan Fox? She looks completely different in this photo than in all the others I've seen of her. I totally didn't recognise her.
Second: I was a cutter in my teens (quite severely). I stopped 5 years ago, still covered in scars, and I hate talking about it. If anyone asked me about it I would brush it off in the same way (or at least in a similar way... "It was a long time ago, I was a teenager"). I am uncomfortable talking about it because it was such a horrible time for me, and I hate to have to hash it out with strangers. It's the curse of having such visible and plentiful scars, but I brush it off completely and totally downplay it whenever it comes up. So basically... I understand why she would want to gloss over it. I don't think she has any responsibility to the rest of the planet because she is a somewhat well known public figure.
Okay, before I post I should say that I love Megan Fox, I think her lack of inhibitions is something to be admired. Therefore, the rest of my response might be biased, but here we go.
I do not think she wanted to minimize the problem. She probably made the comment, then regretted it so she said "dabbled" as a way to back-pedal out of the situation. We have to remember that journalists go out of their way to make their subjects feel comfortable so they divulge info they might have otherwise kept private. I honestly don't think that her attitude was dismissive, and if asked I believe that she would acknowledge the issue of self-injury as being a serious one. She's more intelligent than people give her credit for.
As for the role model comments, you guys can't be serious? Fox is not and has no interest in being a role model. She doesn't even really have much interest in being a "real" actress. She's just having fun. And if she is inadvertently a role model, well there are worse people to look up to. At least she presents herself as exactly what she is and doesn't comprise that for the sake of others.
Plus she openly talks about being a feminist AND her opinions on being a "sex symbol" and a feminist. In a world where so many women don't want to be either of those things, I think she at least deserves respect from us and the media, which so often takes what she says out of context in order to make her look bad.
I've never heard Megan Fox call herself a feminist. Could you please back that up? I know that many of the things she says can be interpreted as feminist statements, but if she doesn't think they are, then she is not a feminist.
So, because she failed to label herself correctly she is not deserving of your respect?
Why don't we all just label ourselves as men then, problem solved, no more feminism!
I never said she doesn't deserve respect. And I don't really understand what you're getting at with "let's label ourselves as men".
I was referring to the people who seem to advocate feminism, with talk of gender equality, mutual respect, sexism, double standards ect., but when asked explicitly if they are feminists, they shy away from the term, giving excuses like "I like male culture too much" (Lady Gaga), or something along the lines of "feminism isn't relevant any more". I'm sure you know what I'm talking about; we see it in the media all the time. If Megan Fox doesn't accept the term "feminist", then is she stil a feminist?
I don't think so. I think that if someone rejects the term "feminist", it means that they refuse to acknowledge the problems that feminism addresses exist in our society. (Have you ever heard people say that rape isn't gender-related violence, its just violence?) I wouldn't call them feminists.
Again, I don't know if Megan Fox has called herself a feminist or not. Either way, she doesn't deserve disrespect. However, anyone is free to dislike her, which is not the same as disrespect.
Megan Fox told Entertainment Weekly that she's a feminist.
Well, from the standpoint that she says she used to cut herself, I'd say that she has the authority to speak about her experience. And it's pretty obvious from the "I don't want to elaborate" part that she didn't really want to talk about it with the journalist, so the distancing/diminishing language makes sense in that regard. Perhaps she chose the word "dabbling" because she was afraid/ashamed to convey that she had a serious problem, especially in light of how much crap she gets from the public already.
Since I often get so fed up with our expectations that actresses function as some sort of feminist role model when there's really no reason for us to expect that they're any more educated on these issues than your average woman, if Megan was simply one of your friends/dormmates/coworkers who made a comment like that, what would your reaction be to her? What would you say to her?
Well said Alixana. I think that if she had been my friend the word choice wouldn't have made me blink an eye. Because American culture is pretty much synonymous with pop culture we reflexively pick apart things celebrities say, and sometimes I feel that we find things there that weren't meant the way we take them.
The most important thing I see here is the difficulty of owning a label that you feel will "soil" you, victimize you, and associate you with a condition you yourself stigmatize. Just as many survivors of sexual assault never call their experience rape, many people who suffer from self-injury resist those labels for similar reasons. Applying labels that have social connotations and labels you may have made negative assumptions about to yourself is incredibly difficult -- it's an adjustment to your identity.
More than anything, this is an example of why we need to encourage openness and judgment-free approaches to these things so that others don't feel shamed into denying their experience or de-emphasizing the significance of their life events.
Exactly. That's what I think Megan Fox was doing here. She was minimizing her experience, perhaps because she hasn't fully dealt with it herself. I'm definitely willing to give her a pass here. I think she's talking about herself more than anyone else. She's not making fun of people who suffer from eating disorders or compulsive cutting. She's saying it isn't a big deal to make herself feel better about her own problems. If there wasn't such a stigma surrounding mental illness, she'd be able to talk more openly and honestly about these serious problems.
I feel that through the language she chose, though she may be minimizing it for her personally, she is contributing to the cultural discourse that stigmatizes and stereotypes eating disorders and self-injury.
I know that it may be what she needs to do for herself, but it has repercussions for people like me, too.
She was on the spot, I doubt that she chose the world "dabble" because she thought long and hard over it. It probably just popped out. I've said things that come out wrong even after I consider them, I'm not going to cast the first stone over fumbled word.
Tara, have you been a 'self-injurer'? Do you really think it's right for you to tell people how to label themselves and why? Self-injury is an incredibly complex phenomenon, and I think you're oversimplifying the issue. It is not ALWAYS a sign of an underlying mental illness or disorder; sometimes, it is a coping mechanism, just like heavy drinking. Neither is healthy, but does having a few episodes of heavy drinking during a tough time in your life make you an alcoholic? I think we can agree that that isn't necessarily true. Self-injury is not so different from heavy drinking, except that, as you acknowledged, the taboo is different. Your comment is obviously influenced by that taboo, so I think you might want to take a step back.
why is cutting always a "serious problem"? yes, for some people it is. for other people, it doesn't seem to be.
eating disorders seem a lot worse to me, they're bound up in poor body image and self hatred, but cutting isn't necessarily self-punishing. the emotional context makes a difference. i wouldn't "trivialize" cutting but i don't believe it's always "self-destructive" behavior.
it can be a coping mechanism. if you're depressed and you start drinking is drinking your worst problem, or is it depression? some people cut occasionally at times of particular stress. i think of it as the difference between use and abuse.
for one of my best friends cutting was a serious problem. it was addictive and it very obviously marked her for life. but on the other hand the stigma of cutting can be worse than the thing itself. another friend of mine was involuntarily committed because of a few light scratches. it seems like that was an overreaction. it certainly did not improve his mental health and was not in his best interests.
for the person who said "No one should have to go through cutting or an eating disorder." i sympathize. emotional problems suck and dealing with them alone sucks more. but i would disagree that cutting is always indicative of a disorder. cutting can be a relief. i know it's weird but some people enjoy pain. wasn't bdsm recently taken off the list of mental disorders? on top of that, scars, like tattoos, can commemorate important events, even if they are very stressful or painful. in other cultures this is called scarification and has a very different significance.
"cutting isn't necessarily self-punishing"
Uhm, yes, it is. Scarification for the purpose of leaving permanent marks in a design is not considered cutting in psychology. Cutting, in psychology and psychiatry, is doing so for the purpose of inflicting pain to punish oneself or gain control over one's life, and it would not be classified as cutting if it was being done because one enjoyed the pain sexually (unless they were really doing serious damage) or because they were creating intentional scars as commemorative or decorative markings.
Similarly, an eating disorder is only considered a psychiatric disorder if one is doing it for control or to punish oneself; extreme dieting because it's socially acceptable or you want to look thin is NOT anorexia (though also dangerous and discouraged), but dieting because you want control over your life, you cannot cope, or you feel you need to be punished is (something I've learned firsthand lately; it's been hell convincing my fiance's psychiatrist that he's actually anorexic and doesn't just want to look like people on TV).
Drinking to cope is ALSO something that is addressed as a serious problem in psychiatry, even if you only do so once in a while. Anything that causes damage or potential damage to the body or may impair the senses and is done to punish oneself or as a coping mechanism is automatically addressed as a very serious concern, because they demonstrate that you either have very poor coping skills and need help handling stress in positive ways lest you become so overwhelmed you escalate the self-harm, or they demonstrate that you have self-esteem issues that need to be addressed.
Cutting can also often be a precursor to other, more serious harming, including suicide, so hospitalization does make sense if there's reason to believe a person may escalate their self harm.
The act of cutting one's own skin is not necessarily a disorder, but the term "cutting" as it is used here does not usually encompass doing so in a non-damaging way for sexual reasons or doing so in a ritual way as a part of the society one is a member of (like scarification, as well as other body modifications). The reasons why Megan Fox, and other young women, would do it are unlikely to be to commemorate events or because they have a pain fetish. And in general, because the MAJORITY of people who cut are doing so because of psychological or psychiatric related reasons, it's safer to assume that's the case until we have evidence that the individual IS one of the few exceptions.
This.
"The act of cutting one's own skin is not necessarily a disorder, but the term "cutting" as it is used here does not usually encompass doing so in a non-damaging way for sexual reasons or doing so in a ritual way as a part of the society one is a member of (like scarification, as well as other body modifications)."
Especially this.
what does "damaging" mean exactly? if you can cut for reasons of physical pleasure (i would argue that this is not necessarily sexual pleasure) or as something comemorative, why is cutting in relationship to emotional pain damaging? can't you cut for all of those reasons?
when reacting to an emotional trauma cutting feels good, i find it expressive and aesthetic, and i like to remember the event by looking at the scars. i like every part of the cutting process. i like the pain, i like the way the cuts look and feel, i like the cuts ache as they heal, and i like the way the scars look. i don't have many scars because i cut very infrequently (lots of people tattoo more than i cut) but i would defend my cutting as my right to do with my body what pleases me.
this is all my personal experience and i know other people have other problems. for other people perhaps, cutting needs to be dealt with as a disorder. i know some of those people and i'm not speaking for them, i'm speaking for me.
this is all very personal and i'm probably going to catch hell for being a freak, and even freakier, liking it. to those of you who have had serious problems with cutting, please know that i'm not telling you your experiences don't matter, they do. but so do mine.
It sounds like you have a vastly different experience than most people who cut. From what I learned in the hospital, most cutters feel a deep sense of shame after cutting themselves. I know that for me personally, I hate looking at my SI scars because it reminds me of the state of mind I was in when I cut myself.
Also, just because SI brings a sense of relief does not mean that it's healthy (I'm not talking about you, just cutters in general). Drinking and drug use can also feel good temporarily, but using it as a way to self-medicate can be incredibly damaging and dangerous. Not to mention there's all kinds of physical dangers in cutting yourself (tetanus, sepsis, blood loss, etc).
Briana, thank you for that explanation / clarification!
And cmb, thank you for sharing your experience. I've never heard someone describe such a positive experience with occasional self injury -- I learn something new every day here!
And finally, just in case it wasn't clear... no sarcasm intended in this post. Sometimes I re-read my posts when I thought I was clearly being sincere but other folks think I'm being sarcastic... the perils of the internet...
wow, i didn't expect people to be so ....compassionate/open/receptive. i expected a lot more fire and brimstone : p you guys really raise my opinion of online forums in general, thanks.
I absolutely agree that, like self medication, cutting can be a slippery slope can have health implications.
erg, editing
** can be a slippery slope AND can have health implications.
since people really freak out about cutting, cutters don't often speak up about it. i'm guessing that most of them don't wind up in the hospital so it's really hard to generalize about how they feel. i think it may be one of those "taking a voiceless minority to be a homogeneous group" problems
You finally got it right with that last comment-- you don't know how we feel. In fact, no one in this little exchange here seems to have an accurate understanding of what a complex and nuanced psychological phenomenon self-injury really is. So, as someone who has both self-injured and spent a lot of time researching it, I'd appreciate if everyone would stop presenting their speculation as fact. Actually, I'd appreciate it if everyone would stop presenting their speculation period. It is not helpful to anyone with who struggles with the issue or anyone who really wants to learn about it.
Did you miss the portion of cmb's prior comments where it was mentioned that cmb has a prior history of cutting? Not trying to be snitty, I'm just wondering who your comment is directed at.
Wow, sorry this comment was so poorly written.
"cutting isn't necessarily self-punishing"
Uhm, yes, it is.
Not always. I don't cut to punish myself, I cut (and burn and scratch) to cope with the noise in my head, which drives me mad. I've heard this from a lot of people who SI. The noise becomes so bad that the only way to deal is to inflict pain, which helps you to rise above it, calm down, be grounded. There is nothing self punishing about that.
Ugh, HTML fail. The second sentence was a quote too.
Please see my comment to cmb bellow. In short, it reads, "STFU & listen".
Thanks.
There is a HUUUGE difference between cutting as self-harm and cutting as part of bloodplay or scarification. While the physical outcomes can be similar, they are done for entirely different reasons and absolutely cannot be compared. People who use cutting as a coping mechanism are not trying to get off, decorate themselves, or "have an experience" - it is a way of making internal pain easier to deal with by putting it on the outside.
I was a cutter for several years when I was a teenager, to the point where I was hospitalized for 2 months when I was 16. I still struggle with depression and the urge to cut now, as a 22 year old. And yet when I was 19, I got a scarification chestpiece. Does this count as a relapse? No, because my self-harm was borne out of depression and hatred and a feeling of utter hopelessness, while my chestpiece was a positive, fun experience that I went into with a healthy state of mind. It might not seem like a big difference to you, but it is for those of us that have been through it.
tl;dr: Cutting in and of itself is not a disorder, but cutting as a coping mechanism absolutely is.
i think we can agree that motivations matter a lot.
No one in this comment exchange seems to have an accurate understanding of just how complexed and nuanced a phenomenon self-injury really is. As someone who both self-injured and spent a lot of time researching it, I'd appreciate if everyone here would think twice before stating their opinions as facts.
I'm surprised nobody is looking at her comments like a feminist. She is right. It is GIRLS that deal with these things for the most part. Why is that? If you look at it this way, her comment was mostly good. I think we can agree that "dabble" was a poor choice of words, because it makes it sound like eating disorders and cutting are no big deal.
However, I have a problem with a lot of the commenters saying that cutting isn't a phase. For some people, it is. A lot of people are depressed during adolescence and then just grow out of it. It was a phase for me. I thought it was serious at the time, but now I see my cutting as no big deal, as a cry for help, and a desperate, misguided attention to get people to notice me. I guess Megan Fox is more in the camp of my experience, instead of the camp of people that have to go to rehab for their cutting addiction. As feminists, don't we want to respect women's experiences and not impose our experiences/judgments on them? Perhaps Megan Fox's comments make it sound like all cutting problems were no big deal, and should have clarified that she can only talk about her own.
That's a good point. Cutting has been compared to eating disorders numerous times. Although boys do cut, it is far more common among girls. I only personally met one boy who cut, while I knew so many more girls who did it. There is a book about cutting called "Cutting" by Steven Levencron that has some good insights on self mutilation's relationship to eating disorders and why it's more prevalent among girls.
I don't think we should condemn Fox for her comment, as for her and many others her description may be accurate. But I also think trivializing any psychological disorder can be dangerous. I think the underlying psychological pain is more of a concern than the actual physical act of cutting. But cutting is a sign of potential serious mental disorders.
i'm jumping on the "cutting CAN (although not always is) a phase" boat. why is that? because self-injury seems to be glorified in a sense when it comes to girls. i have cut in my life, once was a very serious mental side effect of a medication, and the other times? because girls in books and in movies and at school did it and hey, i was sad too so i probably should aswell. i have since been diagnosed with depression/SAD/anxiety. these diagnoses, therapy sessions and subsequent medications are completely unrelated to ever cutting. in fact, i have not once cut since becoming so severely depressed.
furthermore, i don't think megan fox meant that cutting is always just a phase when it comes to girls. but maybe that wads the case for her. and maybe she just wanted to move past that point quickly because she didn't want to (and shouldn't have to) discuss her life and mental health on such a personal level.
I would say that actresses don't sign up to be role models (a la Charles Barkley's "I am not a role model. I am not paid to be a role model. I am paid to wreak havoc on the basketball court.")
However, Fox has explicitly said that she considers herself a role model for strong, intelligent young women. So in her case, the criticism is warranted.
Oops. Should have been in reply to Ooperbooper way up top.
Oops. Should have been in reply to Ooperbooper way up top.
I didn't know that HoyaGuy. I guess all I can say is that I hope we respect "strong, intelligent young women" enough not to worry that they're in danger of being swayed by something Megan Fox said in an interview with Rolling Stone.
Oh, definitely. It's not that I'm saying that the young girls can't choose their own role models.
But if you are going to suggest that you are a role model, you're voluntarily placing a bulls-eye on yourself. You're opening yourself up to criticism if (I'm not sure Fox did here) you fail to live up to the standards that you have placed upon yourself.
Juli, source is Times of London.
"It depends on what your idea of a role model is. If your idea of a role model is somebody who’s gonna preach to your kids that sex before marriage is wrong and cursing is wrong and women should be this and be that, then I’m not a role model.
But if you want your girls to feel strong and intelligent and be outspoken and fight for what they think is right, then I want to be that type of role model, yeah.”
We can debate whether or not she does live up to these standards, but she's placing them on herself.
Okay, thank you for the source.
I read stories about Fox all the time, and I have never heard her say she's a role model. Where was this?
Oh, definitely. It's not that I'm saying that the young girls can't choose their own role models.
But if you are going to suggest that you are a role model, you're voluntarily placing a bulls-eye on yourself. You're opening yourself up to criticism if (I'm not sure Fox did here) you fail to live up to the standards that you have placed upon yourself.
Juli, source is Times of London.
"It depends on what your idea of a role model is. If your idea of a role model is somebody who’s gonna preach to your kids that sex before marriage is wrong and cursing is wrong and women should be this and be that, then I’m not a role model.
But if you want your girls to feel strong and intelligent and be outspoken and fight for what they think is right, then I want to be that type of role model, yeah.”
We can debate whether or not she does live up to these standards, but she's placing them on herself.
Apparently I double-post everything. Damn you, Internet connection.
Sorry everyone.
This was taken from the Rolling Stone cover article on her. The guy who was interviewing her was asking the most ridiculous questions that you'd never ask a guy. It was a terrible interview.
Have you read Rolling Stone lately? That's kind of de rigueur for them
Yeah I was wondering how a question about cutting came up in an interview anyway? How is that at all an appropriate interview question?
Well I don't know if you've noticed, but there appears to be a conscious effort to brand Fox as "that hot 'crazy' chick."
Sort of in the mold of Angelina Jolie in the Billybob Thornton, vials of blood, kissing her brothers years.
Maybe it's not conscious, or it comes more from the interviewers/writers than Fox and her representatives, but it's been a prevailing theme in coverage of her lately.
No I have totally noticed that, and it's irritated me to no end, but I still say that regardless this is a completely inappropriate interview question.
The context of what she says makes all the difference in the world. It completely depends on how she meant it, and words alone can't easily reveal intent. She says it almost in a way as though she was ashamed of cutting (to the point that she won't even label herself "a cutter") and in so doing is relegating it to a point in her life where she considered herself and the behavior foolish. Part of it too is that she is, I think, seeking to distinguish that it wasn't a major issue in her life and doesn't want to be viewed as though it were.
I think about when Fiona Apple was interviewed about her own childhood rape and was reluctant to talk much about it because she didn't want to be viewed, in her words, as a "rape poster child".
However, I think what we can all agree on is that eating disorders and self-mutilating behaviors, particularly among young women, are far more prevalent than reported. Yet, in stating this, let's not make this into a media-driven alarmist issue with all of these scary, exaggerated (if not altogether fake) statistics designed to instigate the latest moral panic towards American girlhood, either.
I don't see Fox as dismissing it. I read it as her saying that some women go through a short period of time (apparently, calling a 'stage' is a no-no) when they engage in destructive behavior such as eating disorder cutting, but they then later become healthy adults.
Admittedly I'm not a current or former cutter (although I've had friends and SO's who were), but it seems like a lot of people here are mapping their experiences or understanding of cutting onto everyone.
Sort of like they're saying, "It was a large and traumatic life experience that never entirely went away for me/someone I know, so it must be like that for all people who engage in such actions."
For some people, it is a 'stage.' Some people do 'get over it.'
It's a bit patronizing to suggest "cutting is always _______." It's an experience that varies widely across people.
Megan Fox, please go away. Usually I don't pay any attention to what comes out of that girl's mouth, but I was a self-harmer for five years (from the age of twelve to seventeen) and this girl is so wrong about it. Like many people have said, cutting isn't a phase you go through and then grow out of. It took me five years, multiple hospitalizations, and a cocktail of horrible medication for me to learn how to deal with my depression in a more positive manner. Megan Fox is just reenforcing the idea that self-harm is usually for attention, and something that one can just stop when they please, which as former self-harmers may know, is so not true.
Okay, I don't think it's fair of you to insult a person you don't even know, but since you already have...
I just want to say that a LOT of girls are cutters, more than we see statistically, and we all have very different experiences. Your experience sounds unfortunate and severe, and I'm sorry that happened to you. But your experience is not Fox's, or mine, and it's just as wrong for you to say that all self-harm is a certain way as it is for her.
i think its hard to see that your experiences are not The Experience, just an experience. and that experiences can all be very different. there's no one right way or one real way to do things. what's true for one person is not true for everyone.
(speaking in the general "you")
I think this is very true. My experience was incredibly painful and the thought of it just being a phase triggers two things in me. One, the words that virtually every doctor and loved one in my life said to me. And two, a bit of jealousy, almost, that it was something I latched onto. I wish I could've just done it a couple of times and been done. But we're all different people.
I suppose that I, personally, am so critical of how Megan Fox's words are contributing to the proliferation of discourse on eating disorders and self-injury because during my recovery process, I was very vocal to the media about my experiences as a self-injurer. I know she did not set out to be a spokesperson, but being a public figure in any capacity opens you up.
I realize this wasn't directed at me specifically, but I feel like I wanted to add it to the discussion. : )
i'm sorry that things have been so hard for you. I've witnessed first hand the pain of others who've fought cutting and eating disorders together as a joint illness and i would never minimize the hardship that they have been through. clearly for you cutting was not "just a phase" and you did not merely "dabble".
it seems as though you've encountered people, particularly medical authorities, who did not give your problems enough credit. they weren't really looking at you but through you at stereotypes that they had already encountered. for one of my friends cutting was the problem she needed help with. (and that was the first time i've encountered medical help that actually helped! i'm so grateful) for two others, cutting was not the problem but got all the attention, thus obscuring the actual problem and actually making it worse. (why i'm still wary of medical "help") i think the issue here is the sensitivity of medical professionals and the public to the needs of individuals.
she's a Jolie wannabe using the Jolie business model, except that she is not nearly as intelligent, so instead of coming off as interesting and as one who has faced challenges and overcome them, she comes off as a ditz. Maybe she is combining Monroe and Jolie's business model...she is a Fox after all.
she's a Jolie wannabe using the Jolie business model, except that she is not nearly as intelligent, so instead of coming off as interesting and as one who has faced challenges and overcome them, she comes off as a ditz. Maybe she is combining Monroe and Jolie's business model...she is a Fox after all.
she's a Jolie wannabe using the Jolie business model, except that she is not nearly as intelligent, so instead of coming off as interesting and as one who has faced challenges and overcome them, she comes off as a ditz. Maybe she is combining Monroe and Jolie's business model...she is a Fox after all.
she's a Jolie wannabe using the Jolie business model, except that she is not nearly as intelligent, so instead of coming off as interesting and as one who has faced challenges and overcome them, she comes off as a ditz. Maybe she is combining Monroe and Jolie's business model...she is a Fox after all.
she's a Jolie wannabe using the Jolie business model, except that she is not nearly as intelligent, so instead of coming off as interesting and as one who has faced challenges and overcome them, she comes off as a ditz. Maybe she is combining Monroe and Jolie's business model...she is a Fox after all.
Did you intentionally post that five times?
I enjoy that we're all comfortable debating what she said, but I don't see the relevance in you claiming things about her that you can't possibly know.
Really, you honestly think I intended 5 of the exact same comments. Wow.
Way to show respect for your fellow Feministing reader.
BTW, I live and work in L.A.
2 of my firends work (at various levels) with the PR co that reps Fox.
It's a business model.
Come to L.A., work to create change from within the belly of the media biz-
then and only then do I respect your "schooling" of me.
Cause right now, you simply come off as someone taking Fox's story personally (hitting your nerve) &/or as someone totally ignorant to the PR process.
Really, you honestly think I intended 5 of the exact same comments. Wow.
Way to show respect for your fellow Feministing reader.
BTW, I live and work in L.A.
2 of my firends work (at various levels) with the PR co that reps Fox.
It's a business model.
Come to L.A., work to create change from within the belly of the media biz-
then and only then do I respect you "schooling" me.
Cause right now, you simply come off as someone taking Fox's story personally (hitting your nerve) &/or as someone totally ignorant to the PR process.
This entire post strikes me as so wholly anti-feminist, destructive and, for this blog's purview anyway, so completely beside the point. I can't believe how few commenters thus far seem to feel the same way.
As for criticism of a famous female artist on the basis that she's not "sending her young emulating fans a good message," isn't this the kind of bull that Feministing usually decries? Aren't y'all usually up in arms when a woman or minority is lambasted for not being a proper role model? As you know, women in the public eye are often held to impossible standards to which men aren't.
(And what "young emulating fans" are you talking about, anyway? This is highly speculative, and from what I can tell the bulk of Fox's fan base isn't young girls anyway.)
By insisting that Fox is "normalizing pretty serious issues," you're speaking for her and claiming that her experiences amounted to "pretty serious issues." Whether or not she downplayed her own experiences in so doing (and we can't know that either way), Fox clearly stated that she thinks of them as constituting a phase and not an ongoing issue. How can you purport to know better than she?
More importantly, what concern is it of a feminist blog whether an actress is honestly describing her possibly painful and self-destructive experiences to a Rolling Stone reporter? Fox never said she was proud of her behavior or would recommend it to other girls. She never said that she thought it was no big deal if other girls engaged in it.
This post sounds little more feminist than the grossly scolding, "concerned" one to which it links, featuring a gossip-rag exhortation that Fox consult a therapist, not a reporter. (The irony.) The term "concern troll" rings a bell.
Yes, completely seconded! This is not what I expected from a Feminist site, especially when dealing with a subject as touchy as Self Harm.
There should also probably be a trigger warning on the post.
Well said. I agree 100%. I couldn't believe what I was reading.
Megan Fox was put into an uncomfortable situation and she was doing what she needed to do to maintain her boundaries. It may have been clumsy, but so what?
I don't know how exactly to say this, but by expecting her to be a perfect advocate as a recovering cutter, you are contributing to her victimization. It's similar to how individual women are expected to speak for all women. Not only is it impossible, it's also a completely unfair burden. It's a painful subject, and she doesn't owe it to anybody to be a perfect role model with respect to this issue.
Are we going to take away her feminist card over this, or what? Are we going to expect all survivors (of anything) to go stand in the spotlight and answer questions and speak perfectly about their experiences? Get real.
I'm going to be honest here and it will probably bite me in the ass (again). However, I've been thinking a lot about this issue and talking to people.
I think it's problematic that Megan Fox used the term "girls" and made a statement generalizing to all young women, that eating disorders and self-injury are phases girls go through. Now, it is true that young women face extreme body image challenges in our society. That's not the issue. The issue is that when I hear the word "phase," I am reminded of the many people in positions of authority who use that language to downplay the experiences of people with mental illness.
Each individual has a different experience, absolutely, but my issue with this is there seems not be a general conversation about how women's experiences with highly gendered mental illnesses (like eating disorders and self-injury) are minimized by our society. Whether or not each individual has experienced that, there is a historical pattern of the devaluation of women through this discourse.
I don't want to speak for others in this thread, but I have an emotional reaction to that because it touches something very close to me, both personally and as a feminist. It's taken me a long time to be able to own my anger, and I'm not going to feel badly that this pisses me off.
The issue, then, for me is not necessarily that Megan Fox may or may not have been through a phase of cutting in her own eyes, the issue is how her statements are part of a larger discourse that dismisses these experiences. She may be part of that discourse, she may be reacting to that discourse, but that is the feminist issue to me.
Jane Ussher's book Women's Madness talks about the gendering of these types of mental illnesses, and it was a very important book to me. Yes, we should allow Megan Fox and others to construct their own experiences as they lived them, but we also need to talk about how our experiences are shaped by the social structures in which we live.
Just what are her responsibilities with regard to speaking for anyone other than herself and how did she come to assume them?
She's not the surgeon general, she's an actor who got asked an invasive question and dealt with it in a way that may or may not have been ideal.
And why should she be expected to do any better than that?
I think I'm not being clear. I'm not making an argument that Megan Fox needs to be responsible and the spokesperson for these types of mental illnesses. I'm arguing that the emotional reaction I have to her words is tightly bound up in the feminist issue of women's relationship to mental illness in society. I'm trying to move beyond the personal (Megan Fox) and move to the political (discourse on eating disorders and self-injury).
I recognize that she is "just" an actress, not an academic or a policy maker. But her words address this discourse, and it's the discourse that I'm pissed off about.
Let's not intentionally misunderstand voluptuouspanic please. She's made a lot of well-informed and interesting points and this has been a very civil thread.
Might I suggest that you turn this into a community post voluptuouspanic? You seem to have a lot to say and I think this might be better explored in a post without the added Megan Fox element (since apparently she's a controversial figure for some).
Thanks, I really appreciate it. I'll give some thought to a community post. I do have a lot to say on this issue and, as I think others have been saying, it's a very conflicting issue for those of us who have lived it.
I see that I missed an evolution of your statements in this thread, and I'm sorry to have lumped the one that I responded to in with what I saw as a larger trend of people pointing fingers at Ms Fox.
My mistake! The discourse is a disaster, for sure.
exactly, perhaps a feminist writer will step forward and give the ACTRESS a script with all the proper responses...but, for now, her only script, if any, for interviews, comes from her PR company.
Just what are her responsibilities with regard to speaking for anyone other than herself and how did she come to assume them?
She's not the surgeon general, she's an actor who got asked an invasive question and dealt with it in a way that may or may not have been ideal.
And why should she be expected to do any better than that?
Oh my goodness thank you so much for saying this, and so well.
"As for criticism of a famous female artist on the basis that she's not "sending her young emulating fans a good message," isn't this the kind of bull that Feministing usually decries? Aren't y'all usually up in arms when a woman or minority is lambasted for not being a proper role model? As you know, women in the public eye are often held to impossible standards to which men aren't."
Thank you!
I'm so tired of people bashing Megan Fox for the exact reasons we should be backing her up. I can't believe the horrible responses she gets from other women. I hate to follow the "girls are all jealous of each other" idea, but some of the feedback Fox gets makes me think that this is the case. It's really sad.
It's too bad the article doesn't provide resources for people who cut themselves.
As for Megan Fox, she claims to have serious psychological problems and worries about them. link Hopefully, she'll get the help she needs and be able to talk about self-cutting in a constructive way one day.
FIRST OFF I MUST THANK FEMINISTING FOR THEIR AMAZING WORK WITH THIS POST!!!!
SECONDLY I HAVE TO SAY I AM SHOCKED AND APPALLED BY ANY NEGATIVE RESPONSE TO FEMINISTING FOR THIS POST. HER COMMENTS DO TRIVIALIZE CUTTING IF NOT WITH "DABBLE" THAN WITH THE WORDS "EVERY GIRL DABBLES IN EITHER CUTTING OR EATING DISORDRS" THIS IS DISGUSTING AND PATHETIC.
NOT ONLY THAT, THOSE WHO SAY THAT FEMINISTING WAS TOO HARSH ON HER SHOULD READ THE POST. THEY ACKNOWLEDGE HER "BRAVERY" FOR COMING FORWARD ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
AND THE PEOPLE WHO DEFEND HER BECAUSE SHE "NEVER WANTED TO BE A ROLE MODEL" YOU NEED TO DO YOUR RESEARCH ON MEGAN FOX BECAUSE SHE DID SAY EXAAAAAAAACCCCTLY THAT!!!!!!!!!! AND THEN SHE DOES STUPID THINGS LIKE THIS.
ON THIS NOTE FEMINISTING I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE ADDRESS SOME OF THE OTHER DISGRACEFUL AND UNFORGIVABLE THINGS THAT SHE HAS SAID.
STARTING, APPROPRIATELY, WITH HER OTHER COMMENTS IN ROLLING STONE WHERE SHE STATES THAT THE IDEA OF A "ONE NIGHT STAND MAKES HER SICK"
NOT ONLY DOES THIS DEGRADE AND SHAME COUNTLESS WOMEN FOR THE WAY THEY LIVE THEIR LIVES IN PRIVATE, IT IS RIDICULOUS CONSIDERING THIS GIRLS CAREER IS BUILT ON SEX, JUST LOOK AT THE PHOTOS!!!
THAT IS HYPOCRACY AND IT IS IN NO WAY FEMINIST OR STRONG!!!! AS SOMEONE WHO HAS HAD A ONE NIGHT STAND I FELT PERSONALLY DEGRADED AND SHAMED. PLEASE TALK TO GIRLS ABOUT IT!!!
LASTLY I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU GREATLY FOR USING THE PHOTO OF HER THAT YOU DID, BEFORE SHE TRANSFORMED HERSELF WITH PLASTIC SURGERY.
LET ME START BY SAYING THAT I DONT THINK THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH PLASTIC SURGERY. THERE IS SOMETHING HORRENDOUS ABOUT LYING ABOUT IT!!!
NOT ONLY DOES FOX REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SHE HAS REDONE HERSELF WITH SURGERY SHE FLAT OUT DENIES IT. THIS PROMOTES THAT WOMEN SHOULD NOT ONLY CONFORM TO AN UNREACHABLE BEAUTY IDEAL BUT SUBJECT THEMSELVES TO SURGERY FOR IT!!!
IT IS ESPECIALLY SADDENING WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT THIS GIRL HAS MADE HER CAREER OFF OF HER LOOKS!!!! SHE NEEDS TO TELL GIRLS THAT THE REASON THEY DONT LOOK LIKE HER IS BECAUSE NOT EVEN FOX REALLY LOOKS LIKE THAT.
NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT LYING ABOUT PLASTIC SURGERY SHAMES ANYONE WHO HAS GOTTEN IT.
THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH FEMINISTING AND IF YOU COULD TAKE THESE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION THAT WOULD MAKE ME FEEL SO MUCH BETTER ABOUT MYSLEF AND IM SURE OTHERS!!!
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND DONT LISTEN TO ANY NEGATIVITY!!! YOU ARE IN THE RIGHT HERE!!!!!!!!
Here's what I learned:
1. You type in obnoxious all caps.
2. Your applause for the post seems to be based mostly on your hate for Megan Fox.
I think you're putting way too much energy into hating someone you don't have a personal relationship with, and in the meantime, detracting from an otherwise thoughtful dialogue.
Ouch, my eyes. Please do not type in all caps.
I think I came across you on another blog. I'm sorry that your self esteem is resting on whether or not bloggers attack Megan Fox, but your comments are far more anti-feminist than anything Ms. Fox has ever said.
This reply is a completely unfair, cheap shot at my comments. First of all I acknowledged and applauded feministing for giving fox credit for talking about something personal. Second of all your comments about my "self esteem being hinged on blogs attacking Megan Fox" was purely an attempt to belittle the formed thought out comments that I made, and there is nothing okay about making such personal shots at someone you dont know. I never said anything about who she is deep down merely what she represents to people. And your comments about my not being a feminist because i dont agree with what Megan does is yet again a low cheap shot meant to simply belittle me into being quiet and make me feel like I dont belong in feminism, that is low, cheap and wrong. I would never criticize your ability to be a feminist just because you dont like someone that everyone else likes.
She didn't say you weren't a feminist, were a worthless human being, or anything like that. Secondly, regarding you bringing your self esteem into it: "THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH FEMINISTING AND IF YOU COULD TAKE THESE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION THAT WOULD MAKE ME FEEL SO MUCH BETTER ABOUT MYSLEF AND IM SURE OTHERS!!!" Finally, Megan Fox annoys the hell out of me and I've only had to sit through one of her movies, and yet it's pretty obvious to me that you've developed a weirdly personal problem with her. Everyone else is addressing what she's said, you've given us a list of reasons you hate her.
This reply is a completely unfair, cheap shot at my comments. First of all I acknowledged and applauded feministing for giving fox credit for talking about something personal. Second of all your comments about my "self esteem being hinged on blogs attacking Megan Fox" was purely an attempt to belittle the formed thought out comments that I made, and there is nothing okay about making such personal shots at someone you dont know. I never said anything about who she is deep down merely what she represents to people. And your comments about my not being a feminist because i dont agree with what Megan does is yet again a low cheap shot meant to simply belittle me into being quiet and make me feel like I dont belong in feminism, that is low, cheap and wrong. I would never criticize your ability to be a feminist just because you dont like someone that everyone else likes.
I tried to read everyone's post, but I can't read in all caps. I just can't.
ALL CAPS IS HOW YOU KNOW IT IS SRS BZNS
Can't haz capslock.
WHY ARE YOU YELLING AT US????????
Yeah, I read all caps as yelling... is that weird? But seriously I couldn't even read this whole thing because it was bugging me so much. Lower case is your friend.
As someone who is a recovered cutter (6 years now, I'm 20). I was hospitalized for it twice, and when I refer to that period of my life I also refer to it in a simular way because that part of my life is over, and looking back on it it was completely ridiculous. I don't think she did the wrong thing, obviously if she even stated it then she faced it, which is hard enough to admit. I'm definitely not a Megan Fox fan, but I don't think this should be as blown out of porportion as you are making it. Teen cutting is an epidemic, and most girls (espically 12-16) have delt with some form of body image issue that lead to negative self destructive habits (whether it be cutting, eating disorders, drugs, etc). I think its a good thing that she's open regarding the subject because those for those struggling, seeing someone who is successful, and by society's standard "Beautiful" that can help them get over it. When I was in recovery and met someone who had also struggled, but made it out and were okay and were making something of themselves, it made me feel better, and gave me more hope. I don't think you should cover this topic unless you have personally struggled with that issue, maybe then you'd understand the point she was trying to make.
How do you talk to a person about getting help without running them off?
I don't know how big "cutting" is in minority communities but I knowof this girl 15-16 puerto rican/dominicana who does it. This girl is so negative, she is so mired in what I would call depression and the just sheer and other just...I don'tknow... a resignation in the futility of life it's amazing. I would try to there for her be a sister , a confidant to her and talk to her, even if it made me want to slit my wrists. Mainly though I try to get her to seek help cuz she need it. Sometimes she will talk to a counselor but she needs some major help beyond me and you can do only what you can do.
I've been where that girl is, so I think I'm somewhat qualified to respond to this. But take it for what you will.
Firstly, I guarantee that unless this girl is mentally retarded or has a mental illness along the lines of schizophrenia, she knows there is something wrong. Secondly, although she may not want help with this self-destructive coping mechanism, I'm sure she wants help with whatever is causing her to NEED that coping mechanism. HOWEVER-- and this third point is the most important-- you simply may not be in a position to help her. It doesn't sound like you know her as anything more than a casual acquaintance, so your bringing up her cutting will catch her so off guard that she'll be too embarrassed to want to have any sort of conversation with you; yes, you will likely scare her off. And then she may try even harder to hide this behavior.
So, really, the best thing for you to do would be to talk to someone who is closer to her and ask if they will broach the subject with her. Make sure this person is sensitive to the issue and knows a good deal about mental health issues-- say, an academic advisor.
I do wish the two of you luck.
Thanks I appreciate that. As usual re-reading my post I can see I was off explaining things.
I know her casually but she confides in me and I try to be there for her to talk to, I can tell she likes me and she tells me all her business including the cutting. She tried to make it sound casual and not a big deal when she let it slip. I don't think she does it a lot...but you fear where that will lead. She seems so unhappy and I try to get her in a better place but it really wears on you. I have gotten her to talk to a guidance counselor a couple times. I tell her getting stuff off your chest is a great thing.
OK, yeah, that changes things a bit.
Really, the worry isn't where it will lead; believe it or not, although self-injury and suicide are co-incidental, it's because they both stem from a third source (mental illness, abuse, etc.) not because self-injury escalates into suicide. In fact, self-injury, as a coping mechanism, helps people NOT to commit suicide.
So the real worry is where the behavior is coming from, i.e. that third source like mental illness or abuse that, yeah, could also lead to suicide. And since she is reaching out to you, it does seem like you are in a position to help get to the bottom of this. Frankly, getting her to speak to a professional is really about as much as anyone could be expected to do. But if you want to address it with her directly, I would just flat out ask her, "Why?" Because people always fail to ask that. They say "Stop" or they ask "How could you?" but they never ask why you do it in the first place.
Be prepared for the possibility, though, that she may not be fully ready to accept help, including help with the underlying problems. Opening up to others about self-injury is an important first step, but it's only a first step. So don't beat yourself up if your efforts fail.
It's really nice to know that there are people like you out there, though =)
As a (former?)'cutter' myself, I'm pretty conflicted about this analysis. I get the concern about belittling the issue (God do I ever), but I don't think Ms. Fox was doing that.
Really, your average cutter is not doing anything more bizarre or dangerous than your average heavy-drinking teen. Neither is in any way healthy, but neither should be stigmatized to the point of marking that person as completely damaged/insane. And I think that was the point Meghan Fox was trying to make.
As a (former?)'cutter' myself, I'm pretty conflicted about this analysis. I get the concern about belittling the issue (God do I ever), but I don't think Ms. Fox was doing that.
Really, your average cutter is not doing anything more bizarre or dangerous than your average heavy-drinking teen. Neither is in any way healthy, but neither should be stigmatized to the point of marking that person as completely damaged/insane for the rest of hir life. And I think that was the point Meghan Fox was trying to make; simply because one self-destructive behavior literally leaves marks, does not mean you are anymore emotionally/mentally marked than someone who drank as a young adult.