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I found this video instead, I don't know if its the trailer your talking about or not

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYQ19JM_M1g

Oh my goodness. I just made a community post about this stupid trailer last night (I'm waiting for it to actually post).

I hate hate hate the trailer. It is soooo full of stupid stereotypes and looks like all it's trying to do is just get straight male butts in the seats by trotting out bisexuality and Megan Fox in skimpy clothes. It drives me crazy!

I was at first interested when I heard Diablo Cody was making another movie. But then I heard it involved Megan Fox who IMO can't act and then I saw this horrible sexist trailer and I've decided to skip this one. Is she trying to turn stereotypes on their head in the movie? I don't know, but the advertising lost me as a customer.

SHE'S a FEMINIST?! She had me fooled.

for your information, the bisexuality was NOT in Diablo Cody's screenplay. I read that bisexuality was actually forced into the story by the studio execs cos they knew that guys would be turned on. Ugh.

Hollywood studios, in the end, always call the shots and can change the story if they want to. Cody couldn't do anything about it.

While I am skeptical about this movie, her feminist comment certainly has me intrigued enough to download it on the internet when it is released....but I sincerely hope that Diablo does have some understanding of feminism and has REAL feminism in mind, because what I predict she's actually getting at is the "man-hating/eating" feminist stereotype. Sadly, I think the feminist stereotype is embodied in Megan Fox's character. Is she really that dumb to think that a character like that would appeal to feminists? I hope not. :(

Ergo, I think this film is skewed toward her "15-year-old boys" demographic and less so to actual feminists (whom she may have had limited interaction with).

But, actually, does anyone even know if Diablo has embraced the F-word herself or know of any interview where she discusses her views on this? One would think--given Juno's strong female perspective--that she may be a feminist, but this Jennifer's Body mess indicates otherwise (assuming the film turns out to be just as I predict).

It's good that Ms. Cody and Ms. Kusama are getting movies made, but a whole lot can happen in multinational corporate movie studios (notes, no control over the final cut, marketing) before the finished product hits pubescent boys' eyes.

Given the casting and cringe-inducing trailer, you'd do better hoping that "honest to blog" became a national catchphrase.

I have mixed feelings about Diablo Cody, but I absolutely cannot stand Megan Fox. So I won't be seeing this movie, tell me how it turns out y'all.

i saw that trailer when partner and i went to see district 9 - phenom movie, btw.

i loved amanda seyfried in big love - this? not so much.

actually all the trailers shown during D9 were highly disappointing.

I think it's important to understand and consider the history of women in horror films before deciding whether JB is feminist. If you look at most horror films women are usually (and problematically) victims of male killers. Of course there are exceptions (Teeth, The Descent) and there is a very good theory about final girls in horror (Carol Clover). Just because Cody is turning the victim/killer binary in an opposite direction does not make it feminist. Clover also writes about coding in horror--where your gender is determined by your behavior rather than actual sex--in other words, sex proceeds from gender. So if you scream and have stereotypical "feminine" qualities you are coded female and usually die. The inverse is also true--thus the final girl (the survivor) appropriates masculinity and thus manages to survive the male killer. We'll see with Jennifer's Body--it is entirely possible that the Megan Fox character is simply coded male and thus is the killer. I'm happy Cody is writing and working in male dominated Hollywood--but I'm still skeptical about JB.

"The tricky thing is if you're going to subvert those tropes, they have to be there."

I think this is a really good point. Think about the language in something like Huck Finn. In principle, you're dealing with the same balancing act.

I wouldn't want to compromise the integrity of my feminism just for the sake of making it cute and likeable, but i'm keeping my fingers crossed that Diablo will put all these images in their proper, satirical context. She's definitely walking a fine line here but all satirists do i think, and i have faith in her as a writer.

Also, in response to some people who said they're not going to see it because of the trailer, I would agree if there was no inkling that this was going to do something good, but in this case, the writer has stated a feminist intent. so I think the movie, even if it fails, is worth seeing. It's important to take note of how feminism is being characterized by mainstream feminist figures.

Hmmmmm.....maybe it's like Buffy except if Buffy was a villian?

Still don't like how overt and aggressive female sexuality is protrayed as evil.

However, I do appreicate the dialogue:

Needy: You're killing people!

Jennifer: I'm not killing people, I'm killing boys.

cheeses tryst, not another frickin' vampire movie!

One aspect of high school films, whether horror or not, that I would like to see the last of is the negative portrayal of female relationships. Besides lonely outcasts being alone together, I cannot think of any high school movies that illustrate females supporting and even LIKING each other. Look at the "best friends" in this movie: yes, it appears Jennifer tries to kill her friend in the end, but even before that, she dominates the other girl and betrays her by stealing her boyfriend (albeit to kill him).

Sure, we all have "Queen Bee" experiences from our younger days, but surely many if not most people also had and may still have strong connections to other females?

It's like the severe absence of positive female adults in Walt Disney movies-always showing girls being catty and socially/emotionally destroying each other is an incredibly negative and simplistic way of portraying young women and does a great disservice to female high schoolers who see these media tropes and think it's the way to act.

I am disappointed in the trailer for this movie. I really enjoyed "Juno", but this looks like a pseudofeminist excuse to cast an untalented but attractive young actress in a role that seems on the surface to be subversive, but is in reality a reaffirmation of gender roles.

The intense sexualisation of the character of Jennifer makes me believe that this movie is more about exploitation than subversion. And that combined with the juvenile, almost infantile behavior of the character strikes a really creepy vibe for me...the juxtaposition of Jennifer's highly sexual behavior with her little-girl poses seems to be presenting a dangerous paradigm.

Also, "I'm not killing people, I'm killing boys"? I know they're supposed to be in high school, but didn't we outgrow "David & Goliath" t-shirts as pre-teens?

Ok, to be fair, I haven't seen the trailer yet, but when I read about the cliches in the trailer, despite the fact that the film was written as feminist satire is, maybe they're just trying to pull the guys in to see it? Think about it, most of the time, if we make a feminist piece, who comes to see it? The people who already believe in its message. Methinks this is a crafty way of moving beyond preaching to the choir...?

"Cody and her crew tried to create a film "with both feminists and 15-year-old boys in mind." Karyn Kusama, of Girlfight, is directing and told the Times: "It may be one of the best ways for a young male audience to experience a female story without feeling like they have been limited by a female perspective."

Why do we have to worry so much about 15 year old boys being "limited by a female perspective"? I was under the impression that 99.99 % of comedy, action, suspense, horror, and teen movies do a pretty thorough job of worrying about the 15 year old boys -- without anyone questioning whether or not young girls are limited by an incessant barrage of media framed from the perspective of those 15 year old boys (read: obnoxious and sexist).

If someone is going to make a "feminist" movie, you'd think one of the many characteristics of that movie would be an unapologetic focus on (and targeting of) 15 year old GIRLS.

Honestly, I did not find Juno to be very feminist. Sure, Juno was supposed to be smart- but she got fooled by pro-life b.s. at the clinic and the writer seemed to go out of her way to portray both mom's (Juno's and the adoptive mother) as unreasonable caricatures of motherhood. So if this film is by the same writer, I'm not really excited.

Joan

And, on another note (after watching the trailer) -- what exactly is "feminist" about this movie? The fact that Megan Fox's character "kills boys" or that ultimately the movie comes down to a death-match between girlfriends? Seriously?

I thought in the first trailers I saw Megan Fox's character was raped and either killed and left for dead and somehow becomes possessed.

So now Jennifers Body uses sexuality to get revenge.

And then the second bunch of trailers came out and now it looks different.

Aren't we always bemoaning the whole "sexism for the greater good" idea? I mean, when Peta does it we have post after post after post about how horrible it is to use sexism to further your cause, even if the cause is a good one. But here, this trailer is okay because the ultimate goal might be to get 15 year old boys to see a feminist-leaning movie? No. This trailer is horrible! I cannot say well that's okay and I'll hold out judgement because the movie itself might have a good underlying message. Maybe they're just using sex and bisexuality to trick people into hearing about our message...which is really a feminist message underneath piles of sexism. It's still using "sexism for the greater good" and if it isn't okay for other groups to do this it isn't okay for feminism either. We have to hold ourselves to the same standards as we hold everyone else.

Um, when freaking Amanda Seyfried is the "plain" friend, I realise this is not the film for me.

I actually think that this can very much be embraced by feminists. Yes, ok, Megan Fox is the standard Maxim-posing objectified-seeking Hollywood prototype, but that doesn't defeat the premise of the story: an ass-kicking woman who isn't a damsel in distress getting raped at every turn, and who is actually doing the destruction. And it isn't women dying this time! Women who are fucked and then brutally murdered, as is common place now in these types of flicks. Yes, I disagree with violence as entertainment (as this very much looks to be), but I can appreciate the difference of this one.

I know I'm not alone in feeling like I cannot go to a movie anymore without sitting through a rape scene (why? what the fuck does it add to the story? usually nothing except showing yet again how helpless and on the verge of rape every woman is in the eyes of Hollywood). That a movie without a woman being completely dependent on a man is hard to come by now days. And, I might add, it is female actresses that I respected taking these roles! Katherine Heigel, Drew Barrymore? Come on, ladies, stop playing the idiot woman who falls for misogynistic men who treat you like dirt! But, Megan Fox has taken a role playing a woman who is not being raped, who is not dependent on a man, who is actually the one kicking dude's asses (again, I don't agree with the violence of it, but c'mon...it's MEN being murdered helplessly! We can all take a moment to appreciate the turn of the tables!).

So, I say, kudos to Cody. She created a screenplay where a woman is strong and dominant. The entire movie is centered around two LEADING FEMALES....not men. Sure, the bi scenes might be considered pandering to the girl-on-girl fetish of prepubescent boys, but what if women think it's hot too? I mean, can we really not see how this movie might affect prepubescent GIRLS? Aren't we proud of our sexuality, and even if we are sick of seeing anorexic large breasted women flaunted as the wrong image of perfection for young women to obsess over, is there no way for us to think that women might enjoy watching?

So, that's my two cents on it. I love all the discussion surrounding this!

I also wouldn't consider 'Juno' to be a particularly feminist film, but her character is only 14-16 years old (I forget the exact age). Her first time pregnant, still in school, alone, frightened, unsure about what to do, braves going for an abortion...and then someone (she knows) starts yelling at her about how she's a killer, etc. - I wouldn't say she was "fooled" out of it, exactly. More like manipulated and scared out of it.

I don't think Megan Fox isn't talented. I haven't seen or read any interviews with her, so I can't comment on how her personality comes across. I know a lot of people think she's just cast in roles to attract horny males, but it's not her fault she's considered attractive. She may be classed as the "hot" girl in 'Transformers' (someone else would be if not her), but she's also the woman in this movie who is viewed as strong enough to leave her asshole boyfriend (and for someone thought of as less desirable both in his personality and his 'dorky' personality), brave enough to stand side by side with the lead guy and the soldiers of America in battle (both with evil robots and with a couple of asshole authority figures), and her character's Working Class, so a piece of my heart goes out to her (character) and her background.

Fox's clothes (chosen, I'm guessing, by someone working for Wardrobe on the set of the film) aren't that "skimpy" in the trailer. When out of the house she only has part of her stomach revealed. We do see her in her underwear, but she's in her room. Yep, it's a shame this is done mainly for some of the male audience, but some women (and men) - of all shapes and sizes - do feel comfortable enough to be in their own home, own room, when not completely covered. Even around others. There's nothing wrong with it. If our societies weren't so sexist (and perverted), we most likely wouldn't care. We wouldn't expect her to be particularly covered. Especially not in what's probably a hot American Summer setting.

As for glamorizing bisexuality - meh. Short of a Hollywood film focused on the troubles of a bisexual - which is a completely different direction/genre to 'Jennifer's Body' - movies like this are always (at least for a good while) going to be called out by some for glamorizing bisexuality. There are a few (films) which do this in a terrible, blatantly obvious way. But this? Because one of the main females is socially desirable? Why can't she just be a (randy) bisexual? Looks like the other female is going to reject her anyway (the trailer seems to imply the character 'Needy' likes 'Chip').

I'm not trying to dismiss the sexism/how Megan Fox is evidently used to promote the film, or the fact that many producers/directors/writers/whoever feel the need to cast people who they believe society think are hot, but if she were a male and the trailer was the same, what would be said then?
Can a female not be the big bad? Does she have to kill both sexes not to promote the ideas of women being man haters/eaters/etc (if she were to only kill men) and women not being able to get alone with other women (if she were to only kill women)? And can she not show sexual preference so as to avoid the film being thought of as glamorizing bisexuality or lesbian...ness, or as heterosexuality being the right sexuality? (And can't show sexual desires for the same reasons?)

I'm a big horror fan. There are hundreds of horrors. Unfortunately, this means original ideas are rare. Zombies, vampires, aliens, monsters of some kind, female and male human killers - new ideas are short these days. They're re-making old classics like 'Friday the 13th', 'Nightmare On Elm Street', and 'Halloween' - and I'm thinking it's because there's not much good material which hasn't already been covered. (I hate Rob Zombie's re-make of the first - it may be that the special effects are better because of today's technology, but the scene of sexual nature was completely unnecessary
- just did not fit with the rest of the film - and a lot more emphasis is placed on Michael's family/home life being poor, which to me is suggestive of this being the reason why he became a ruthless killer, rather than the pretty much randomness of/in the original.)
I don't think Megan Fox is meant to be a vampire in this (as someone on here said). At least not a typical one. She walks in the sunlight and opens her mouth as wide as a baby's head when about to eat people. As far as the horror field goes, this may actually have a little originality to it. (Granted, other films have otherwise human-looking creatures in which open their mouths wide and bear their considerably sharp teeth before eating somebody, yet aren't named as vampires.)
Anyway. Why I like horror movies: Women kick *pause* ass in them! Even though the majority of the time they are the target victims, and even if they aren't the main character, they are so often in horrors shown to be bad ass, brave, intelligent. More so than the men in many. 'Scream' trilogy, the 'Final Destination' movies (not sure about the latest), 'Resident Evil' films, just to name a few (of my favourites :P). 'Kill Bill'. So it'll be interesting (for me) to watch one with a female (as a non-human killer). (I'm not suggesting those to anyone; there are scenes of a sexual nature in a couple which could act as a trigger.) I really find them empowering.
Give me a female killer for a change (compared to most). Give me one who isn't heterosexual :P. Looks to me like the person brave and smart enough to stop the evil is also female. Go her. I look forward to seeing that.

Another note - yay for 'The Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants'. I love/d those books. And I agree about this movie portraying good female friendships. 'Angus, Thongs, and Full-Frontal Snogging' (or 'Angus, Thongs, and Perfect Snogging' for Americans) should also be a good movie for this, since the books (which I also loved when I was younger) are about a girl and her group of friends. 'Lost and Delirious' (about a lesbian couple in a strict all girl's boarding school). 'The Parent Trap'. 'Strike!' - There are tons of films which show female friendships in good light. There might be a couple of arguments in some, but that's realistic, not negative. Even in horrors (E.G. the 'Scream' films).
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Hopefully this makes some sense. Been typing it over hours. Bed now.

I read the book (adapted from the script) for work. There are some lesbian elements (one scene mostly), but most of it was Needy's story about what Jennifer turned into and how she stopped her. Yeah, it's a bit Buffy. I didn't think it was ground-breaking action-thriller material. Didn't strike me as particularly feminist, either.

I don't know, really? Maybe there are feminist moments in this film, maybe not, but to me, a demonic, man-eating, impossibly gorgeous seductress is a clear sign of anti-feminism in a film, not feminism.

I'm also a little tired of movies geared towards mainstream, predominantly male audiences being justified with the term "satire." Kind of like how Downey's blackface in "Tropic Thunder" was "satire?" Yeah, not buying it. It's just an excuse for Hollywood to do what they want and feel better about it.

Downey's role is the perfect example something being labeled satire incorrectly. Downey's character was definitely absurdist, but it's wrong to call it satire because its not like the movie was trying to combat racist views or comment on modern minstrel shows.

But that doesn't mean that there's no such thing as satire, or that satire isn't really effective when its presented to a mainstream audience and plays off of mainstream assumptions.

But I wouldn't even bother suggesting that this film might be satirical if Cody hadn't explicitly stated a feminist intent.

To be fair though, when Cody talks about feminism, she might be talking about (what i think is) a pseudo feminism that revolves around female sexual "power".

I think everyone's right to be wary of thing film, but i think Cody's promise make it more worth seeing than your run of the mill sexy succubus movie.