well actually it did win a award it was the "Best of festival" at the San Antonio Christian Film festival.

So...I only think I'm a victim? Good to know. I'll tell everyone in my life who's ever hurt me that they're off the hook.

People who work for Abortion Clinics want girls to get pregnant and have abortions? Really? So THAT'S why they handed me all those condoms and told me how I could get free birth control, because they wanted a repeat customer.

Where on earth did they get the statistic that sexually active young women between 13 and 19 have three to five abortions? I was pretty sure the statistic was something like 43% of women at age 45 have had at least one abortion.

I've been sexually active since I was 17yrs old and I've never had an abortion. I must really skew their mythical statistics.

And this is why I sincerely believe that feminism and the Abrahamic fairth are destined to conflict. Say what you will of these poor, deluded, self-loathing women, they read their Bible.

I almost can't believe something like this actually exists. From the website:

"Starting with the infamous 16th century essay written by the reformer John Knox against the reigning female monarch, the Gunn Brothers find plenty of application to America’s political landscape; where feminists vie for every possible office including the presidency."

God DAMN those feminists! Someone stop them before it's too late! I mean, for the love of all things good and holy, they're trying to become president now!! It's almost as though they think that they're... that they're... EQUAL TO MEN!

It's just too ridiculous to get upset at, but it's a good laugh

This has me steaming! The fact that these two men feel that they have to create a film that speaks to women about their history and future is one of the most upsetting things to me. this is not a new concept and i doubt that it will ever fully stop within my lifetime, but i do hope to hear from more women and men about how this is patrichary at its finest! This is why i also have constantly questioned faith of all kinds and what they say about women!

I have also been sexually active since i was a teen, but i never once dealt with abortion or STDs because my amazing mother decided that it was up to her to educate me about options i had other than abstaining until marriage.

The website is a nightmare! I'm not sure why but this has actually upset me to the point of tears but it did also remind me of why I'm prusuing a gender studies minor. i've got a lot of work ahead, clearly!

holy fucking shit.

Umm.. Stacy McDonald, author of "Raising Maidens of Virtue," (which made me laugh out loud in my office and I'm totally going to the library to see if I can find it) sort of confused me. When I wear a sexy outfit, it's because I think I'm sexy and want to feel that way. It doesn't mean I want to have sex with anyone who looks at me.
I don't believe in a god, but if I did, I'm pretty sure I'd think she thinks I'm sexy, too.
So where's the lie?

Okay, I just clicked "Play," saw it was Phyllis Schlafly, and decided it wasn't worth my time. GRRR to that one.

And just to relish a little in some of what tried to occur with Rick Warren on Tuesday....

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/education/story/D00F2F30B4689B3A8625744B00821014?OpenDocument

I'm 63 years old and I've been hearin Phyllis Schlafly since I was in my 20's. I woud just like to say - Phyllis Schlafly, sit down and SHUT UP!

Oops, I meant "hearing", not "hearin"

Haha, did you notice their sidebar? Hate 'male.' Oh, so clever!

And listen to the description of their other film:

"The Gunn Brothers take you to Shaky Town to show you a history of Christian persecution including fire bomb attacks, threats, legal assaults, and now, more recently, a mayor who attacks the Christian institution of marriage.

You'll hear testimonies from Christian Heroes involved in a front-line battle against immorality in the so-called “tolerant” city. You'll also see real video footage of Christian churches in San Francisco being attacked by violent groups of homosexuals. So be warned, this movie is not for the faint-hearted!"

Ok first of all... GodTube? hahahahahahahahaha

Also, I'm pissed at the idea that only having one kid means you hate children. I would really, really like to have a second child but I'm currently choosing not to because I don't think I have the monetary and emotional resources to support a second one without severely impacting my existing son's quality of life. Damn near every minute of every day, the smallest to the largest decisions, I'm taking my son into account. But no, apparently I hate kids because I've only got one. Amazing.

This made me throw up in my mouth a little.

And geez, the one lady only gave us two options for dressing-- maternity clothing or slut uniform. That sounds familiar..

Let's play "Name That Monster" in the website's banner:

Hillary Clinton, ????, Barbara Boxer, Mary I, Mary I again.

Why is Mary I in there? She wanted and tried (unsuccessfully) to have lots of kids, she was a hardcore Catholic, and she obediently allowed herself to be used as a political pawn by her father. What could they possibly have against her? Was it simply because she was a queen and wielded power? Because she killed Protestants, perhaps? But, seriously, you'd think this group would be down with good old-fashioned pro-patriarchy Papists.

Oh boy- the woman in the abortion indstry right after Shafly talking about how the abortion industry's "goal" is for girls to have MORE abortions. I'm getting a little twitchy from watching this.

And somehow Hillary Clinton is evil because she didn't want to "stay home and bake cookies" ?

ugh.

Read the comments from people who bought this drivel..../barf

I would really like to think that at least some of those are fake, but I guess I'm just too cynical to believe it.

Metabonbon - the redhead on the far right is Elizabeth I not Mary.

The fucking gall of people who are deeply invested in violent, hate-driven religion to refer to another group, any group, as "monstrous" really just takes the cake.

Ugh. That is all.

FINALLY a movie to put those uppity women in their places.

I mean honestly, all of this equality and excess leadership by women is really making the men suffer.

OH and I hate children. Clearly.

(But then I remember that there are people who really buy into this shit, and that I'm probably related to some of them)

Well damn. What a shame letting my uterus go to waste. My husband and I don't particularly want kids so I guess this makes me less of a woman. And god forbid I wear an outfit that makes me feel good and shows off some boobies. Please. I'm an intelligent human and can make decisions for myself.

I'll be sure to dedicate menopause to these lovely people.

I know girls who are being raised Quiverfull and this is one of the few movies they are allowed to watch (it won a prize for best Christian movie one year and is promoted by conservative Christian groups).

Their parents and their community really believe every word of it. To them it's happy proof that they are right in keeping their daughters from going to college, since they are to be 'keepers at home'. It also lends them to encourage 'courtships' (read: arranged marriages, basically) when they come of age, at which point they are ready to be submissive to a father-approved husband instead of to their daddy.

Oh, and Phyllis Schafly flying around the country being paid big money for book deals and speaker engagements, working full-time to tell other women they shouldn’t work outside the home? That one should just speak for itself.

I can't for the life of me understand why they have a picture of Mary I of England up there. She was a devout Catholic, and so desperate to have a child that she had two false pregnancies that made her the laughingstock of Europe. She also tried to change her will so that her husband, Phillip II of Spain, would inherit the throne of England after her.

Idiots.

Ha, where is Sarah Palin on the website banner? Oh, and they also forget Margaret Thatcher, who happens to be American right-wingers' favorite welfare state-killing, conservative British prime minister. I'm sure it was all an unintentional omission.

The Monstrous Regiment of Women is totally my new band name.

Christ on a cracker! 3-5 abortions?!?
Haven't any of these women listened to their own advice. How dare they take time out of their domestic duties to talk to a camera crew or have jobs or earn PhDs?!?

Pratchett's The Monstrous Regiment is such a good feminist-themed fantasy book. Sadness.

In the website's FAQ the last question is "Is this movie suitable for kids?" Answer: "We advise you to view the film before showing it to children." Why? "It contains subject matter in regards to abortion, sex and IMMODESTY."

At least they warn folks beforehand. You strive so hard to keep your little angels away from places like schools & supermarkets where they might be exposed to miniskirts or women in trousers, and what do you know, even when you just want to relax in front of a nice self-affirming Christian film, you're confronted by immodesty. Jesus, Mary and Joseph, there's just no escape these days.

I love how people make the assumption that if they only show women saying all of this shit, then it can't be criticized as sexist or hateful towards women.
I'm pretty that was exactly their plan.
Or maybe they're very open about calling themselves sexist, I don't know.

Oh also,

"Feminists often argue that if you're going to have children at all, only have one..."

WOW, really?!
Somehow I've managed to miss that feminist argument.

Gee, I was ALMOST impressed. I thought that they had taken the Puritans' language and used it in an innovative way, but, as usual with these imaginatively challenged people, they just lifted a title from an old Puritanical piece of patriarchal propaganda, the original full text is available at Project Gutenberg: , and it was written in the 16th century, 1558, by John Knox.

From Knox's Preface: "I am assured that GOD hath revealed unto some in this our age, that it is more than a monster in nature that a Woman shall reign and have empire above Man."

It is all about men trying to keep power. Women who help them are stupid. Hear that Phyllis? STUPID.

Umm…what I want to know is why these women are allowed to be talking in the interview? Don't they know that by taking the time for this movie they're neglecting their poor family by doing this?!?! And since when did they think that they could have opinions? And why aren't they making babies right now? And where do they get the idea that they can wear pants? Those harlots.

yah know, i agree with the woman about society's hatred of children because there are lots of elements in society that making parenting and working and parenting and being fully participating citizens extremely hard. daytime curfews, piss poor maternity and family leave requirements, the fact the government is much happier spending money to send its children out to die than to improve schools, "family" restaurants without changing tables (or they are only in the women's restrrom. just a personal pet peeve).

but i cant think of one of those things feminism is responsible for. in fact feminism has tried to help many of these.

I don't have a child because I simply can't afford one right now. OTOH, if I get myself into a more financially stable position, one child is all I'm going to have because it's easier to provide for one child. I'm conflicted about having a child for other reasons as well, but I'm not going to get into that here because I've seen enough posts on feminist websites that cover those topics. Anyway, according to these religious fundies, any decision I make would be the wrong one anyway do I could care less what their opinion is anyway. One thing for sure, if I have a child it will be through a sperm donor, and that alone, will give make these people pitch a fit. I really could care less.

wow this video just really hurts to watch. i know they are ignorant bigots who hate women, but it just makes me sad for the world and for women who have to live under doctrines like this. when that "quiverfull" woman talked about how the world hates children, I just had to laugh. almost as ridiculous as the statement about the number of abortions sexually active women have. these people are insane!

I just thought that someone should point out the last review they have posted on their review page--the one from "Harriet Wimpleton"--is pretty obviously a spoof.

That they include a link to her blog, which is even more clearly mocking, suggests that they may be irony illiterate....

Oh Phyllis. She came to speak at my college a couple years ago courtesy of the Republican Club. My friend and I duct-taped our mouths shut, wore aprons, bought like 4 baby dolls, held mixing bowls, and sat in the front row with signs that said "happy now?", "shit, i should be in the kitchen!". We told my friends mom and she was like "That lady is STILL going at it? SHUT UP already Phyl!"

oops, I just threw up in my mouth a little.

See, if women think that feminism is bullshit then it really must be!

arggggggg!!!!

I wonder if John Knox was around to see Elizabeth I turn England into the most powerful empire in Europe for centuries--and know its biggest threat, Spain, out of contention forever.

Second, the Gunn brothers show their moral bankruptcy by calling female leaders "monstrous" just for being female when history is full of male leaders who are clearly "monstrous."

So, it's all right if you starve your people, commit genocide, set up prison camps and crush political opponents just to stay in power--as long as you're man? Kim Jong Il and Robert Mugabe are not monstrous? But a democratically elected woman who's just doing her job is? Alllll righty....

This video is disgusting, and the scariest part of this message is that people are actually listening to it.

Yet, a little bit of hope: on the reviews page, one of the only people they could get to comment on it is the husband of one of the women in the actual 'film' who says, "If I must say, my wife's interview was great!"

There will always be a minority of skewed individuals (outliers in a bell curve, if you will) in a free-thinking nation like ours, unfortunately. However, we can take solace in the fact that they are a minority, and the woman's place, despite their protests, is no longer restricted to the home.

In response to their accusations, the woman can remain in the home IF THAT IS HER CHOICE. If being a homemaker is what she truly wants to do with her life, that is up to her, and as feminists we can respect that. What we can't respect is society *telling* women that the *only* place for them is in the home. I for one am so proud that people like Betty Friedan and Hillary Clinton taught me that I could be what I want to be, not what someone else tells me I *should* be.

Somebody needs a nap.

OK. That's enough out of you. Reporting.

This pisses me off as much as it pisses off the rest of us fab feministing-ers, but let me throw one thing out there.

I'm from a sickeningly traditional family. My mom has a masters in accounting - and has been a stay-at-home mom since I was born (and I'm the eldest). I promise, I get many of my feminist values from her - her advice to always see beauty on the inside and not prioritize it, to always have dreams, to never plan life around marriage, to be ambitious, to punch back HARDER if ever punched.

So let's remember that the feminist haters around here are the ones in this God-awful (yes, I said it!) film - not necessarily the housewives they wish to be the role models of all women.

Some of the stuff on there actually makes sense. Isn't feminism support ALL women, whether they want to be modest and God fearing or Atheist and "slutty"?

I've seen so many things on here stating that you have to agree "x" in order to be a feminist. Doesn't that go against feminism??

I was pretty sure the statistic was something like 43% of women at age 45 have had at least one abortion.

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