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Spike TV's Top "Butterbodies"

Prepare to be pissed. Nick Coles at Spike thinks that women like Salma Hayek and Mandy Moore have bodies that have "gone to butter." Frankly, I think we get all we need to know by checking out Coles' other articles, like "The Top 13 Hottest Dead Girls."

As the reader who emailed the link in said, "Spike TV still exists?"

Posted by Jessica - January 19, 2009, at 01:44PM | in Body Image , Media , Sexism

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[0+] Author Profile Page alixana said:

The only blessing there is that virtually all the comments are calling the author a dickhead.

Mmmmm...butter....

[0+] Author Profile Page WhatWouldJaneDo said:

How dare women step off the treadmill and eat food!

But seriously, I died a lot inside when I read this. Not so much because jackasses like this exist but because people will still publish their crap.

Sigh. It's really sad that Spike is so gross, since they tend to run marathons of a lot of shows I love. Luckily I don't have cable, so I rarely end up supporting the station.

[0+] Author Profile Page Entomology Girl said:

For one thing, they look perfectly fine to me.

For another thing, whether I think they look good or not is irrelevant, because they don't exist for my viewing pleasure.

[0+] Author Profile Page jdv1984 replied to Entomology Girl :

"they don't exist for my viewing pleasure"

EXACTLY.

[0+] Author Profile Page Dominique replied to jdv1984 :

Ah, but that's precisely what the dickhead doesn't understand...

Wow, I really hope he's going for some kind of satire and failing miserably, because I don't think I want to live in a world where someone seriously considers Tyra Banks and Mandy Moore fat (not to mention the other women on that list).

[0+] Author Profile Page TheKeshKesh7 said:

Some of my fave comments to the author:

"First off, you're a d*ck....A couple of extra pounds doesn't make someone less beautiful.... But then, I bet you also believe the Victoria's Secret catalog isn't photoshopped either."

"his is why 8 year olds get anorexia.

I hope you're proud of the impact you'll have on the lives of the girls and their families as they waste away and kill themselves over this ridiculous cookie-cutter expectation of beauty... utilized to sell magazines, diet pills and cosmetics, with no regard for the negative effects this kind of trite, dehumanizing dribble produces on our world's society.

You are KILLING people with this kind of article.

Literally, people will use this article to rationalize their self-destructive and deadly behavior, and it will indoctrinate any young girl that comes across this filth to equate thin with pretty for the rest of their lives.

Even if thin = heart failure."

"You should be ashamed."

"These women are all beautiful, and weight does not determine beauty"

"Dude... what the hell's wrong with your brain? Seriously. What did you figure would happen if you wrote an article like this? Planning on getting laid... ever?"

The funniest one is: "Salma Hayek just had a baby, you idiot! That's not a beer-gut. Moron."

Sort of a good comment?: "Way to go blow-hards. All you douches that put product in your hair and circle jerk each other off to the Budweiser girls at half time, just blew it for the rest of the folk who contrary to your grade school rant, would actually boink Salma Hayek or Drew Barrymore in a hot second."

Runner up best: "You are a fucking moron. I could go on, but what's the point? Douchebag."

As a personal note, I think Mandy Moore and Drew Barrymore are really gorgeous in this article.

[0+] Author Profile Page SaltyLilKipper said:

Look up asshole in the dictionary, you'll see the author's picture next to the definition.

I don't even get this one. Lists like "Top Ten Awful Plastic Surgeries" usually make some amount of sense (tacky as they are), but...These women are conventionally attractive and most of them are rather slim. What was the author even trying to achieve with this list?

I'm bored of trying to figure it out. I'm gonna go make myself a BLT sandwich.

[0+] Author Profile Page TheKeshKesh7 said:

Some of my fave comments to the author:

"First off, you're a d*ck....A couple of extra pounds doesn't make someone less beautiful.... But then, I bet you also believe the Victoria's Secret catalog isn't photoshopped either."

"his is why 8 year olds get anorexia.

I hope you're proud of the impact you'll have on the lives of the girls and their families as they waste away and kill themselves over this ridiculous cookie-cutter expectation of beauty... utilized to sell magazines, diet pills and cosmetics, with no regard for the negative effects this kind of trite, dehumanizing dribble produces on our world's society.

You are KILLING people with this kind of article.

Literally, people will use this article to rationalize their self-destructive and deadly behavior, and it will indoctrinate any young girl that comes across this filth to equate thin with pretty for the rest of their lives.

Even if thin = heart failure."

"You should be ashamed."

"These women are all beautiful, and weight does not determine beauty"

"Dude... what the hell's wrong with your brain? Seriously. What did you figure would happen if you wrote an article like this? Planning on getting laid... ever?"

The funniest one is: "Salma Hayek just had a baby, you idiot! That's not a beer-gut. Moron."

Sort of a good comment?: "Way to go blow-hards. All you douches that put product in your hair and circle jerk each other off to the Budweiser girls at half time, just blew it for the rest of the folk who contrary to your grade school rant, would actually boink Salma Hayek or Drew Barrymore in a hot second."

Runner up best: "You are a fucking moron. I could go on, but what's the point? Douchebag."

As a personal note, I think Mandy Moore and Drew Barrymore are really gorgeous in this article.

Good lord. The comments under America Ferrera are absolutley disgusting.

Especially since her debut was in a film called "Real Women Have Curves." This guy's a certified douche. I'm sure he thinks he's being funny. Seriously, does he not have an editor?

I know. I always felt America had great curves and she is gorgeous. Really all these women are gorgeous and these are the types of gorgeous women you see day to day. How often do you see someone that looks like Adriana Lima walking down the street? Very rarely.

Also last time I checked actresses (which most of the women are) are meant to entertain us. Not meant for us to check out all the time. Also he just disgusts me with the it's their job to stay hot for us (trust me dude, you're by yourself on that one. I can honestly care what they eat or look like). He needs to know it's not an ACTRESSES job to stay hot. His/her job is acting and only acting.

And bottom line is they're not fat. Trust me I've seen fat people and these women aren't it. So okay they're not a size 2 but most of the women in our society aren't. And when he says Drew Barrymore should be watching what she eats, pisses me off. When was the last time this asshole watched how many carbs he was eating!?!?!

Usually with the articles linked on this site I'm afraid to read the comments, but all the comments on that horrible article were fabulous! I suggest reading the comments to anyone that reads the article...it'll make you feel at least a bit better that hardly anyone seems to agree with the author's twisted point of view.

[0+] Author Profile Page elbu replied to llevinso :

Yes, it's good that most comments are very critical.
But they're not "virtually all [...] fabulous".

What about these homophobic ones?

"Obviously the men who came up with this list are gay. That's the only explanation for being afraid of or disgusted by beautiful curvy women."

"You're gay, right?"

"Man I can't but help to think that Nick Coles probably looks like one of the Gotti kids which would mean he isn't getting laid which would mean he's probably rubbing one out to gay porn which would explain his disdain for seemingly hot chicks."

"I think many guys that are promoting such thinness are actually closet, homosexuals, wanting teenage boys."

"if a woman with a body isn't good enough fo ryou then have fun fucking girls with bodies like 14 yr old boys. i know that must feel pretty great. girls with tits and ass don't want to sleep with douchebags anyway"

"Spike writer Nick Coles has finally come out of the closet and confessed his undying love for shagging skinny, 14 year old, boys!!! Lock up your teenage sons, parents, Nick Cole is on the loose!!!"

"you cock suckers..... just jealous you can't get such fine booty!"

[0+] Author Profile Page Rachel said:

all of these women look beautiful and healthy to me. it's refreshing compared to the stick thin hollywood standard.

[0+] Author Profile Page ucb said:

unfuckingbelievable. i can't believe someone was paid to write it.

[0+] Author Profile Page ucb said:

unfuckingbelievable. i can't believe someone was paid to write it.

[0+] Author Profile Page Laura said:

Someone please tell me Nick Coles is joking.

I used to think that SpikeTV only existed so I could watch Star Trek in the middle of the day... How little I knew. This is awful.

[0+] Author Profile Page Entomology Girl replied to Astrophilia :

Ah, you're not the only one. My poor Star Trek, having to share company with this idiot...

And poor CSIs, too. Not only are the shows reasonably fair regarding gender stereotypes (and/or the lack thereof), but I've literally been a fan of Eric Szmanda for a decade.

I'll admit that I haven't gotten into either of the spin-offs, but CSI isn't exactly the most progressive show on the air. (It happens to be included in the TV report card I just posted.) Aside from spending several seasons ridiculing every subculture under the sun (with particular emphasis on kink and queer), this is a show that delights in sexualized violence against women.

(I love the show, for what it's worth--I just don't think it gets a pass for having strong female characters. Particularly when it can't go a whole episode without mentioning that Willows used to be an exotic dancer.)

[0+] Author Profile Page MASHBengal said:

I hate it when they make fun of women for being overweight. Selma Hayak and America Ferrera are two of my favourite actresses! I love seeing women who are overweight and beautiful, and I hate it when they downcast them for being "fat".

I live in an all girl's dorm at my college and I see am impact of the "have to be thin" culture that gets around. Many of these freshman are so tiny they still resemble middle school or elementary school students. Not to mention, I'm 5' 7", the and I am one of the tallest girls in my building! The rest are under 5' 4". I hate seeing the impact of women having to be thin. I feel like celebrating when I see the overweight girls here because several of them have the "It's my body, so live with it" attitude.

[0+] Author Profile Page katrina_holloway replied to MASHBengal :

i'm sorry, why are you saying they are overweight? they're all clearly at a healthy weight.

he's making fun of them because they're not superthin, but not being superthin does not equal being overweight in any way... (not that there's anything wrong with being overweight, i'm mostly questionning your use of this specific word to describe them.)

While I am also rather concerned at how thin a lot of college women are, I don't think being short can be blamed on the media--the average height for women in the U.S. has been around 5'3" for at least decades (and it's been between 5'1"-5'4" in Europe for centuries--modern people aren't actually much taller than people in the Middle Ages and Renaissance).

Believe me, I wish I were taller than 5'3". But height is almost entirely out of our control.

Katrina, it's quite possible that some of them would be considered overweight according to gov't health guidelines--I am, and I look exactly the same when clothed as I did when I was a "healthy" weight (my face is actually thinner). One can't tell by looking what someone's BMI is (one can't tell whether someone is healthy by weighing, either), and it really shouldn't matter--but it is nice to see women in Hollywood whose ribs don't show on their upper chests.

[0+] Author Profile Page EllieB said:

GAH.

I look "fatter" than some of those women, and I'm a freakin' circus acrobat. This author would rather I starve myself until I'm too weak to do my job without hurting myself. 'Cause *his* enjoyment of my body is WAY, WAY more important than mine.

What an idiot. At least public opinion seems to be against him.

[0+] Author Profile Page maude said:

The best thing about this whole article is someone found a picture of the author and posted it on their blog...
http://tylercoates.tumblr.com/post/70717131/this-is-the-amateur-headshot-of-nick-coles-the

Guy looks like a certifiable neckbeard knuckle dragger to me.

"The best thing about this whole article is someone found a picture of the author and posted it on their blog..."

Oh joy, cat box liners!! Purrfect.

[0+] Author Profile Page elbu replied to maude :

Hm. Somehow I don't think that's a good or helpful way to react. He should be judged by what he wrote - regardless of his looks. Plus he looks perfectly normal to me and I don't think applying unrealistic "beauty" standards to men as well (and making them feel bad about the "thinning hair" and "fatty neck" someone has detected in this picture) is the way to liberation.

(I realise this is probably ironic but as I wouldn't accept "satire" as an excuse for the original list and comments I don't see why I should here.)

[0+] Author Profile Page anteup said:

Wait, theres something wrong with these ladies? They look pretty smokin' to me. You know, except for that candid photo of Liv Tyler thats meant to make her look like a sea beast. Who doesn't have those moments though? I like it simply because it proves that she is, indeed, human like the rest of us.

[0+] Author Profile Page Jcomley said:

God forbid a woman have a natural body...

While I understand what you're saying, I don't like the idea that it implies that thin women are unnatural or aren't real women or what have you. Some people are just naturally bigger and some are just naturally smaller. Now if you were talking just about the celebrities that have known eating disorders than I apologize.

The whole idea of "real women" has a lot of implications, but for me it's always been that someone embraces what they naturally are, because real women have features and characteristics that don't match what the Photoshop gods have decided is beauty. Whether someone is thin or wide, narrow or curvy, with whatever size features or skin type, they're beautiful when they embrace it instead of rioting against it with unhealthy eating habits, plastic surgery or self-hatred.

I think Jcomley probably meant a similar sentiment, just as if a naturally thin woman were being attacked for being too skinny we would applaud her for being real instead of getting implants and force-feeding.

Yes Kate, I agree, and I hope that's what the Jcomley meant. But all too often I've seen these kind of things devolve into people making comments like "At least they look like real women and not 14 year old boys!" and things of that nature. And as I said in my previous post, maybe Jcomley didn't mean it that way, but I just wanted to be sure.

[0+] Author Profile Page Jcomley said:

God forbid a woman have a natural body...

[0+] Author Profile Page katemoore said:

Holy shit, look at the comments. I think you found the only article on the Internet where reading the comments won't make you die inside. And on SPIKE TV, no less. Is the world ending?

[0+] Author Profile Page Rebecca_J replied to katemoore :

I know, it's wierd!!!!!

[0+] Author Profile Page Lilith Luffles said:

Wow, what a douche. But, I found the comments to make me happy inside. A lot of people disagree with this mean spirited douche, and are willing to tell him how mean and wrong he is. Awesome, looks like our efforts are not in vain!

I'm actually glad this article exists, because there isn't a single positive comment to it, and sometimes I need my faith restored in the American public.

[0+] Author Profile Page azzhole said:

Anyone else tired of hearing the word "douchebag"?

[0+] Author Profile Page Rebecca_J said:

My favourite line is:

"As a bonafide star, Drew cannot [eat whatever she wants]. Otherwise every hot woman in Hollywood will adopt a similar mentality and the world will be void of super thin, super hot women."

Does this guy somehow think that all of humanity's tastes are rerouted and filtered through his own perception?

That line makes me wonder if he was fucking around writing that article, it's so ridiculous. It doesn't really seem that way overall, though.

[0+] Author Profile Page Rebecca_J replied to Jamie :

I know what you mean. I almost wouldn't be surprised if he responded to the criticism by saying "hey, it was meant to be satire!" It would kinda sound believable :/

[0+] Author Profile Page Dominique replied to Rebecca_J :

That line speaks of an insecure wanker jerking himself off in his room with fantasies of "super hot women" rushing to knock on his door... Not gonna happen...

I know! Not only is this fucker telling her what to do, but he states that super thin = super hot. I wonder if he's bothered to notice that they're all smart, talented, powerful women: accomplished actors, successful producers, Tony and Golden Globe Award winners, etc. I guess all that, plus their obvious physical beauty, doesn't mean shit if this dude doesn't want to grace them with his wang.

[0+] Author Profile Page Erin Kay said:

As others have said, the comments on this article sort of restored my faith in humanity. That was a pleasant surprise. Now I'm off to check out the picture of the author...

[0+] Author Profile Page Sasha said:

This article is disgusting. These are some of the most beautiful women in existence and he would dare to insult them. And even worse, why should it really even matter what they look like? These are also some of the most talented actresses of today who are beautiful through and through just like every woman out there.

Did I miss something? Because I'm pretty sure these women are hot as hell. The ones who look a bit more "chubby" (if you could even call it that!) are in really unflattering dresses in bad lighting. I mean, c'mon, that Mandy Moore dress clearly has creases as part of the design- it's not flab!

I don't know Sara Ramirez, but she looks gorgeous in that dress. America Ferrera is actually thinner now than in "The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants" and she wasn't fat then either! And Drew Barrymore! ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!! Ok, I'm going to stop before I do a tirade on the other half of the list.

This kind of thinking is an example of the disease that plagues this country: that we take one example of beauty, that represents a small percent of the population and think it should be applied to or compared to all other people. I have no problem with thin women. I don't think only curvy women are "real women". We're all REAL women. But some women are thin, some women are curvy. Some will never be the other, regardless of how hard they try. So why not just be happy with the bodies we have? And if you know you're hot that's all that matters and you shouldn't have to be afraid to flaunt it.

And a guy this judgmental of looks will never ever be happy, so I hope he plans to more or less die alone and unloved.

I think it's ironic that Spike TV, a network that caters to big fat asthmatic sissies and permavirgins in comic book shops, would make such catty remarks about these women.

Besides, they looked better with the extra weight: happier and healthier, too.

"As a bonafide star, Drew cannot do this. Otherwise every hot woman in Hollywood will adopt a similar mentality and the world will be void of super thin, super hot women."

Because, God forbid the world is void of "eye candy" for men.

"She basically gives women an excuse to be fat."
(about America Ferrara)

As if fat women are somehow undeserving of life on this planet. This guy makes me sick.

The article made me mad, but when I read the comments, I couldn't help but laugh.

[0+] Author Profile Page greenhatcat said:

"As a bonafide star, Drew cannot do this. Otherwise every hot woman in Hollywood will adopt a similar mentality and the world will be void of super thin, super hot women."

Absolutely! How dare they feel happy with their body! Don't they know that their one job is to spend their time dieting and going to the gym so that he has hot babes to look at?

"It’s crazy that she has become a poster child for “curvy” women. She basically gives women an excuse to be fat."

He's acting like being a healthy weight is a bad thing! Women don't need an excuse to be fat! Unless you're unhealthily overweight, which none of these beautiful women are, they have no reason to feel obligated to lose weight, especially not because he wants to ogle them! What a terrible person.

"It’s like she spent the last few years on a couch watching television and eating tubs of Neapolitan ice cream. "

My guess is that because the author is of course god himself, she's trying to emulate him and do everything he does. She's still working on the stupid article, though.

"The transformation of Liv Tyler into a frumpy frump is a tragedy. "
Okay, I just had to laugh at that considering right above that sentence was a picture of her in a teeny black bikini.

And Tyra Banks? Is he kidding me?

Why are people like these given a megaphone? I hate how he thinks it is okay to be such a cretin towards "fat" people- as if by not being exactly the person he wants them to be, they're automatically deemed worthless and should be ridiculed. Besides, not that it should matter, none of these women are even fat! They're all much healthier than the size 00 beanpoles that have become our cultural idea of beauty. These women should be praised for breaking free from the stereotype that thin=pretty, not mocked because they have more than two pencils for legs. If the idea of beauty gets any thinner, anorexia will become an epidemic. It's sickening that he would act as though women are there for his own viewing pleasure and must spend their time trying to match the impossibly and unhealthily thin airbrushed model stereotype. And this is coming from someone who weighs less than 100 pounds.

In my opinion, the best thing we can do is to bury this loser. Don't give him the fame and attention he wants just because he's, essentially, a troll with a website.

[0+] Author Profile Page Kendieatsbabies replied to greenhatcat :

"Unless you're unhealthily overweight, which none of these beautiful women are, they have no reason to feel obligated to lose weight."

No, even then you are not "obligated" to do a damn thing. No one is obligated by others to change themselves physically at all, not even for the much-lauded "health" reason, ever. The fact of the matter is that individuals have bodily autonomy, and the state of their health, the condition of their body, is no one's concern but their own.

Am I obligated to buy a bottle of red wine every time the local news says that it might do this or that for my health? Am I obligated to cure my acne or take out my contacts every night or drink only distilled water? While any of these things, including losing weight, might improve my health, my quality of life, my connection with my body, I don't have to do any of them, and you haven't got the right to tell me to or make me feel bad about it. I've only got one health care provider, and if you're not her, you're not entitled to have such in depth views on my physical well-being. Even if you were my doctor, I could ignore your advice to early-or-quite-far-off grave as I saw fit.

If it is absolutely true that a woman's body is no one's but her own, and I believe it is, then that needs to apply to the fat, the smokers, the drinkers, the absurd-and-perhaps-dangerously-high-shoe-wearers. Sovereignty over your own body has to be for everyone, or it works for none.

[0+] Author Profile Page greenhatcat replied to Kendieatsbabies :

Did I already reply to this? I think my comment got eaten. In any case, perhaps that was bad wording on my part. I never meant to insinuate that anyone should feel obligated to do anything. I just watch too much Ruby (where "If you don't lose weight, you will die" isn't hyperbole). And I totally agree with the fact that even if what you're doing is killing you, no one else has the right to act like the author did. I was trying to say that it's ridiculous and unhealthy to push the idea that women like that need to lose weight but I think that idea was buried in my poor wording.

[0+] Author Profile Page greenhatcat replied to Kendieatsbabies :

Did I already reply to this? I think my comment got eaten. I pressed submit and presto- comment gone! :P So sorry if this is a double post

In any case, perhaps that was bad wording on my part. I never meant to insinuate that anyone should feel obligated to do anything. I just watch too much Ruby (where "If you don't lose weight, you will die" isn't hyperbole). And I totally agree with the fact that even if what you're doing is killing you, no one else has the right to act like the author did. I was trying to say that it's ridiculous and unhealthy to push the idea that women like that need to lose weight but I think that idea was buried in my poor wording.

[0+] Author Profile Page lefthandedpenguin said:

"She says she basically lives on carbs and eats whatever she wants. As a bonafide star, Drew cannot do this. Otherwise every hot woman in Hollywood will adopt a similar mentality and the world will be void of super thin, super hot women."

So, if Drew Barrymore shouldn't eat too many carbs, because then this guy will no longer have someone to oogle at? Riiiiight, I'm sure when she's ordering at a restaurant this douchebag is gonna be the first thing in her mind.

I'm already planning tomorrow's huge pasta dinner in this guy's honor. ;)

[0+] Author Profile Page Qantaqa said:

Of course I agree with all of the comments so far (except the one poking fun at comic book geeks, a demographic I'm happy to say I am a part of, as are many of my close friends). However, calling this guy a pig only feeds his ego more. He's the kid at school who flings boogers at you and kicks your chair; he wants attention, regardless if its good or bad. Hell, according to your mom, he's only teasing you because deep down, he likes you.

He's being offensive for the sake of being offensive. Let's face it, as long as a woman had a pulse and was willing to sleep with him, he'd take it. Or not. Pulse optional. (That's an Eddie Izzard reference, not an incredibly immature joke...ok, a little of that too).

Every intelligent person, including men, already doesn't believe in the ideal he's promoting. So let's move on and leave this article in the dust where it belongs.

[0+] Author Profile Page Avital said:

My comment on the site:

I sincerely hope no one is paying you to write this kind of unmitigated bullsh*t. In these difficult economic times, just the idea that you are making bank off of critiquing women's bodies makes my skin crawl.

A note about the women you are insulting: They're not doing it for you, honey. Your genitals are not, in fact, made of candy.

Gee - no celebrity men are listed. Weird.

[0+] Author Profile Page Furtiveone said:

It was worth dragging myself through this idiot's groundbreaking "journalism" to read all the comments trashing him. Kinda restores your faith in humanity.

"It's your job to look fit and hot." WTF? Maybe that's Paris Hilton's "job", seeing as she has no other discernible talents- doing enough drugs to waste her body to the point she looks like she's been dead for a few months. I guess that's why she's "famous"- appealing to the idiot/necrophiliac demographic (like our beloved "author", Mr. "Hottest Dead Girls"). But I digress... Most of the women on this list are actresses- I thought an actor's job was not "to look fit and hot according to the standards of Nick Coles, Amazing Typing Amoeba" but to, you know, ACT. Besides, all of the women on this list are, as far as I can tell, medically healthy (fit) and incredibly beautiful (hot).

I really don't understand why Spike put this asshat's article on their website. They may not give a damn about women and their pesky whining (you know, having feelings, being people, not being made for their viewing pleasure, etc.), but they've gotta care about the bottom line, and many of those "WTF asshole" comments were from males, their target demographic. Apparently Coles isn't the only "person" working at Spike who's not too bright.

Also, what's with all the comments about there being nothing wrong with "a few extra pounds"? What "extra pounds"? "Extra" implies that there is a magic number or a certain weight/size that is good, but anything above that is "extra". I don't see how saying, "So what if they are carrying a few extra pounds?" is a comment defending healthy women- it's still saying that there is "extra" there, i.e. it is still not right/ideal.

It is a great comfort to know that since Nick Coles feels some of the most beautiful women (with the "perfect" bodies that most women don't have) are disgusting fat moo-cows, no woman will want to touch him with a ten-foot pole, and the likelihood of him making little Mini-Misogynists (or having any meaningful, pleasurable contact with anyone more "womanly" than a RealDoll) is slim-none.

I almost did a spit-take at "Amazing Typing Amoeba". :D

[0+] Author Profile Page blickblocks said:

Not that it matters what I think about how those three women look, but I think they look great!

The author wrote "They have the means to pay for a full time trainer and for someone to prepare their meals." Does he really think it's entirely an issue of lifestyle choice? Not every woman has the same body type, some are more naturally curvy, some naturally wispy. Being healthy is more important!

What's weird to me is this emphasis on phsyicality in general -- like, even if I have the means to be smokin' hot (by anyone's standard), is that really what I want to do with my time? Some people do, and some people don't -- I think we should let people's choices about their bodies be their own business and their own problem to prioritize, period. None of this "but my genetics make me look this way" crap, that still subtly reinforces "hotness" as something that should be everyone's goal.

[0+] Author Profile Page blickblocks said:

Not that it matters what I think about how those three women look, but I think they look great!

The author wrote "They have the means to pay for a full time trainer and for someone to prepare their meals." Does he really think it's entirely an issue of lifestyle choice? Not every woman has the same body type, some are more naturally curvy, some naturally wispy. Being healthy is more important!

From a purely gossip-mag not-necessarily-feminist point of view: what is he talking about? I kept looking at that picture of Mandy Moore going "This... this is fat?" What bizarre lens is he looking through? (Also, what man on earth wouldn't kill to have Salma Hayek so much as breathe in their general direction)? I guess it's the same bizarre lens that thinks Tyra Banks needs to lose 40 pounds -- I'm pretty sure if she lost that much weight, she would die. If I lost 40 pounds I would be too skinny (but alive, at least), and I'm way past what this guy thinks is acceptable. As a total aside, I like Drew Barrymore better on the curvier side -- she does the voluptuous thing well, but when she's skinny she starts to get that weird alien bobblehead thing.

From a more feministy perspective -- As repellant as all this is, it's kind of interesting to me that this guy seems to think it's these women's job to be attractive to him. Their actual job, for most of them, is to act. But isn't there a degree to which, in a certain light, he's right -- not about what they should be doing, but about the state of things in current society? I'm sure we can all think of a pile of male actors off the tops of our heads that we'd describe as more "interesting" than "attractive" (leaving aside character actors entirely, too). I can't really do it when it comes to female actors, though. The general social standards that dictate that women who dare to walk about in public must make sure that they are "attractive" at all times is warped to an extreme when it comes to women whose jobs involve being viewed, even if the context of that viewing is ostensibly supposed to be non-sexual "art." So, of course, then, this guy thinks that their "job" is to appeal to him -- because the residue of anachronistic gender roles still lingers everywhere, because we haven't yet reached an era where female actors are expected simply to act.

[0+] Author Profile Page Salad said:

Sometimes I wish feministing wouldn't link to these articles. This one was clearly made to be controversial to even Spike's target demographic ("Can you believe this dude? He must be gay if he wouldn't do Selma Hyack!"). And when somethings controversial the website gets hits and the ad revenues on said site are based off of hits. It's pandering for comments. This shitty article was written in essence, to sell more axe body spray.

[0+] Author Profile Page azzhole said:

Take a look at this blog post, apparently it shows a picture of Nick cole (the guy who wrote the article)

http://tylercoates.tumblr.com/post/70717131/this-is-the-amateur-headshot-of-nick-coles-the

More importantly check out the comments.

ok, he labels some women with "butter bodies", does this constitute getting a slew of comments calling him fat, ugly, and gay? How is what they're doing anything different from what the writer of the article was doing?

[0+] Author Profile Page DownAtTheDinghy replied to azzhole :

it's to make a point.

[0+] Author Profile Page cake-or-death said:

The guy (well, I'm going to assume it's a guy) who commented on the Spike website that "Real men embrace hot bods with superior minds"... I'm guessing he doesn't realize that women with superior minds stay as far away as possible from men who use phrases like "hot bods".

That said, I would pay to watch Sara Ramirez read The Economist. I've had a crush on her since she was in Spamalot, and she's the only reason I still watch Grey's Anatomy.

[0+] Author Profile Page battle angel alita said:

I'm sorry, i couldn't resist, childish i know but:
http://www.motifake.com/teh-butters-idiot-ugly-douche-golum-america-american-twat-ni-demotivational-poster-40959.html

i dunno why american and ni has come up when i put in spike.tv. and nick cole as a tag. never mind.

Didn't Salma Hayek just have a baby? Must she be stick thin the second after she delivers?

Sheesh.

[0+] Author Profile Page Ace said:

Speaking as a male, this dude makes me look bad. Every single one of the women on this list is drop dead gorgeous. Period.

As one of the commenters on the spike site said, "Shame on you, Nick Cole, and worse, shame on you Spike, for publishing this misogynistic drivel."

The pictures on the right are supposed to show these women as "out of shape" or "fat" as opposed to the ones on the left, which the writer thinks are ideal.

However, the "fat" pictures of Mandy Moore, Liv Tyler and Tyra Banks gave me a woody, so there's something wrong with his methodology since a woody cannot lie.

Oh, and he's an asshole, too.

[0+] Author Profile Page Jessica Lee said:

this one about Drew Barrymore especially pisses me off:
"Drew Barrymore’s weight fluctuates like a yo-yo. The star of 50 First Dates and Charlie’s Angels can look super hot or super plump and blubbery. Drew blames her vegetarianism for her fluctuations in weight. She says she basically lives on carbs and eats whatever she wants. As a bonafide star, Drew cannot do this. Otherwise every hot woman in Hollywood will adopt a similar mentality and the world will be void of super thin, super hot women."

what's wrong with this man? I wonder if he's ever gotten laid before.

[0+] Author Profile Page dondoca said:

Reading those comments on the website does restore my faith. That yo-yo is a wacko and I can't believe he would be allowed to publish that trash. I don't watch Spike TV and now I definitely will not. I think that idiot is a closet homo. Apparently can't get laid.

[0+] Author Profile Page dondoca said:

"Take a look at this blog post, apparently it shows a picture of Nick cole (the guy who wrote the article)

http://tylercoates.tumblr.com/post/70717131/this-is-the-amateur-headshot-of-nick-coles-the

More importantly check out the comments."

He's no prize. The comments are giving a taste of the same medicine.

[0+] Author Profile Page dondoca said:

"Take a look at this blog post, apparently it shows a picture of Nick cole (the guy who wrote the article)

http://tylercoates.tumblr.com/post/70717131/this-is-the-amateur-headshot-of-nick-coles-the

More importantly check out the comments."

He's no prize. The comments are a taste of his own medicine. Period.

Ah, well. Better fat on my ass than fat between the ears, I always say.

[0+] Author Profile Page They are still children said:

One word for any picture you see in the media; Photoshop. I am a graphic artist who does photo touch-up and I cannot help but be disgusted at how fake it all is. The world is enslaved by fantasy. The person I am told to work on picture-wise, is no longer that person when I am done, according to what the client wants. I deliver a touched-up but still natural looking picture but no, they want bigger breasts, plumper lips, poreless skin, softer shadows, perfect curves, scars removed. In summery; not the person they handed me and these women are already good looking. I often wonder how I could 'improve' the picture while retaining their dignity.

Speaking of scars, I received one under my bottom lip which you cannot see much of now but when it's obvious in pictures people tell me I should blot it out. I wonder, why? I am proud of that scar because I received it at an SCA medieval war when I took live steel to the face. It bled profusely and took out part of my gum line but I did not yield, I did not even feel pain, I did not even notice how deep and bloody it was. I had to be stopped. People are intrigued when I tell them about it because each scar has a story, and how many people do you know that took a sword to the face? When people accept our 'flaws', they love us even more because it ends up being the flaw that adds to our uniqueness. Unfortunately people like this article writer do not understand that.

I don't want to take away from the offensiveness of Coles' post, but I clicked through the site for a while and it appears as though he's not a writer for Spike. They have some kind of weird Myspace thing set up for registered users of the site. Go to his home page to see what I mean (there are friends, updates, comments...not a professional blog page). At least he isn't getting paid to post his stupid shit.

Ha. First of all, Sara Ramirez in that red dress - mmm. And i'm not even batting for that team.

Of Nick Coles is an idiot, but he didn't even look up what "butterbody" means. It has nothing to do with letting your "body go to butter", it means that her face is hot, "but her body ..."

Way to go with the research, jerk.

[0+] Author Profile Page Attorney at LOL said:

Whoever the woman in the middle picture is, is simply gorgeous. I would love to be seen around town with her!

[0+] Author Profile Page Nikki Ormstein said:

Spike TV is for stoner college guys, can't imagine any man over about 25 watching that dross

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