Deep Thoughts, by Ann Coulter
Ann Coulter says single motherhood is "a recipe to create criminals, strippers, rapists, murderers."
That is all.
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Shoot. Better go tell my best friend since kindergarten, a brilliant econ/business major, that she's actually doomed to become a stripper. Wonder how she'll take that.
yes, godz forbid cause
ya know being a stripper is equivalent to being a criminal,
specifically rapist or murderer.
Cause you know, we stripperZ, especially those of us who are single mothers (who do we think we are!), never make anything of ourselves. We are a nuisance to society.
Thank you for motivating me to do more than produce other peoples film projects.
Back to my screenplay I go.
I'll be sure to write one that can get to the hearts and minds of Feminists as well as the Coulters of the world.
I know that personal experience does not equal evidence but I just have to add that I have a brother and sister, both raised by their fathers (gasp!different men!) while I was raised by my (gasp! single!) mother. I love them, but little brother went to prison for murder and little sister ended up marrying a pimp, strung out, etc. No her little girl is being raised by said pimp because Nevada believes in "equal rights" for parenting. I wonder what daddy's little girl will grow up to do.
Guess what Crazy Ann. Fathers aren't from heaven and mothers from hell. From what I've seen (and this applies to almost every person I know well) fathers (biological or not) are less competent parents, more abusive, more perverted, less caring and responsible, etc. I don't think this is inherent in the XY makeup, just in a culture that excuses and idolizes males for being males. Crazy Ann is the poster girl for said culture.
I should add that my single mom instilled in me a reverence for education that has led me to obtain an advanced degree and to work for social and environmental justice (in the footsteps of Obama). Like Obama, I watched my mother struggle to raise me, while attending community college and working full time taking care of abused children. My mom isn't a saint (who is?) but I turned out better than my siblings who chose to live with their fathers (fathers had $, mom did not).
Are strippers supposed to be equivalent to rapists and murderers in that sentence?
No doubt, since, in her imagination none of them are Republicans.
Frankly,
an an outspoken Republican Stripper would probably get her ass kicked backstage.
I would think that most strippers have more sense than that. ;)
And presidents? Since 2 of our last 3 are the products of single mothers.
Though given that they are both democrats, she probably feels they are the equivalent of rapists and murderers.
.......
wow, that doesn't leave much hope for my 5 year old daughter. guess I better find me a man to insure she doesn't become any of those things, because who better to teach her?
Who is buying her books? I can't understand how anyone, even a conservative, could like her. If I was conservative I think I would hate her more because she makes them look so horrible.
Slight OT, has she figured out how to blame her fall (the one that made her have her jaw wired shut) on liberals yet?
One of my exes (we avoided politics like the plague) has a poster of her in his dorm. No lie.
*yawn*
She is just trying to get the spotlight back on HER after other conservative women (Elizabeth Hasselback and Sarah Palin) recently stole the lime light.
To do list:
29. Punch Ann Coulter in the throat.
Make that a donkey punch. You might hurt your hand on that Adam's Apple.
Because being transexual would be....bad?
Because surprise violence during sex is... good?
I see. Demeaning her sexually is the answer, and donkey punches are oh so funny.
Welcome to the board. I hope you learn something. Jokes like that demean all women, and you know what? Men, too.
I wonder which horrors Sarah Palin's new grandbaby will commit against society as an adult.
Since Tripp's paternal Granny was just busted for selling hillbilly heroin (oxy) to an undercover snitch (big cover up issues since it was happening during the campaign) he will eventually be a fully fledged member of the Valley Trash drug culture.
Source! Now!
Are you kidding? Its been all over the news for a week or two.
How the hell did I miss this? O_O
@SarahMC -- maybe she will convince her grandmother to run for office again. that would be horrible.
I saw that headline on MSNBC yesterday and I purposely didn't read the rest. Isn't America over that whole conservative outcry thing already?
Sidenote: my partner always swears Ann Coulter is an undercover liberal working to make conservatives sound stupid, thus further discrediting them. I wish he was right, but I think she's a genuine asshole.
Another gem from a recent interview of hers, in regard to her new book: She claims that Barack Obama, Halle Berry and Aleica Keys all CHOOSE to "identify" with their absent, black fathers in order to achieve victimhood status in the US, rather than "identifying" with the single white mother who raised them.
Honestly, I wish people would learn how to ignore her.
yes, because when a stranger looks at any of those mentioned one automatically thinks "white"
lol
she is a sick, twisted fiend.
Wow ignorance is bliss. Maybe they identify as black because that's what they are. Mixed and I never heard either of those people go, "I may be mixed but screw being white, I'm going to be black now."
As a mixed person that annoys me. My mom who is black raised me and my dad who is white walked out on me. But I still identify being black and white because that's what you see when you look at me (I happen to look more white).
And I also feel some racism in that comment too because she specifically calls out a black man walking out and referring to the mothers being white. Kinda like an undertone statement that black men are deadbeats.
From interviews I've read with Ann Coulter, it's pretty clear that she doesn't believe half of what she says and that she's making one big outrageous joke in order to be noticed out of all the other pundits. So, my response is to treat her in kind and not take a word she says seriously and laugh at her craziness.
How heartless. It's like people really don't think about the impact their words make when they open their vile mouths...especially effing Ann Coulter! I guess everything my single mother ever did for me was a waste of time. I mean fuck, I only have four options here to choose from! Sorry mom, but those three jobs you worked when I was a kid, you shouldn't have! All that money you invested so I could go to a kick ass school...why bother? I'll just trade in those straight A's and diploma for a stripper pole next week.
Ann Coulter knows best!
It's also heartless to assume that a stripper and straight As are mutually exclusive. My stripper money partly paid for my Master's degree--3.95 GPA. What.
Hi. I'm Kate. I haven't scrolled entirely through the 70+ comments, but I'm going to take a guess that I'm in the minority here as a former stripper.
Of course it offends me that Ann Coulter would lump strippers in the same category as murders and rapists (especially when there's a high percentage of sex industry workers who are survivors of rape and incest, a very sad but true PTSD scenario that deserves an article of its own). What surprises me is that many readers of Feministing would do the same.
May I remind you that most women would not resort to stripping in the absence of pay discrimination. I worked with SEVERAL teachers who were supplementing their low primary income, paying off student loans, or covering childcare costs by stripping. There were aspiring nurses, lawyers, and historians in my ranks, plus a devoted volunteer for the American Red Cross. Trust me, none of us wanted to take off our clothes for money. It was a last resort to possible financial freedom. And while I resented the level to which I had to stoop, believe me, I laughed my ass off all the way to the bank. What a novelty: to beat sexism at it's own game by taking men's money to buy a more equal footing.
Strippers have dreams and goals just like you. We are real people. Begrudge us not our bodies or our choices; they were both hard won.
I've never been in the position where I had to strip for money, but your words touched me. Somehow, I'm not sure how, even feminists 'forget' that people who strip are people. I'm terribly sorry.
Yeah, I'm really sorry how often people forget that strippers are ALSO people. Yet we as feminists will judge the men who watch strippers and don't think of them as people. Jeesh. Sorry for all the haters. That's not what my feminism is about.
Yeah, thanks. I'm a stripper; right now it's a rational choice for me (and I am capable of making rational choices!). I was also raised by a single mother. That doesn't mean my mom fucked up, or that if she had stayed with my abusive alcoholic father I'd be a conservative pundit right now. It just means it's hard to find a job that pays the rent and the exorbitant student loan at the same time.
Ooh! And I got straight A's, too!
Actually supplementing ones income to pay for student loans and graduate degrees by becoming a stripper is quite common. I knew more than a few women who worked their way through college sliding up and down those poles. And every one of them had the same reaction. They all laughed as they went to pay their tuition and book fees.
gosh darn it, my poor miscreant son just got accepted to Temple yesterday. I'll need to let him know he'll have to decline because he'll be in prison for rape/murder/grandtheft auto (choose one.
Does Miss Coulter have parents? or what she born of jackal?
Come on, jackals are adorable. Don't put them in the same boat as HER!
I saw this interview on the Today show and thought to myself, "But doesn't she oppose comprehensive sex-ed, easy access to contraception, and legal abortion?"
Oh Ann, you're so silly.
So women who get abortions are evil sluts, but the women who don't get abortions and become single mothers instead are to be blamed for "criminals, stippers, rapists and murderers?"
Got it.
Ann Coulter makes my head hurt. I know plenty of conservatives who can’t stand her.
Sounds like someone's trying to get another book noticed.
*yawn*
Every time Ann Coulter has a book coming out, she makes an extremely inflammatory statement publicly. I can always tell she's a got a new title when the liberal blogs start going crazy about some new outrageous quote. This is her route to get publicity for the book and it works like a charm. I'd rather not her the attention.
I can't believe this level of assholery is unintentional. She must just be spouting this crap for attention, good or bad.
now i know how much ignorance can be stuffed into one person's brain.
Please don't start putting up posts like this. I already know how much Ann Coulter makes my skin crawl and how she is batshit crazy. I need sites like feministing to help me escape that attention whore.
Exactly. She knows just how to incite controversy to get publicity and everyone plays right along. She's made a very lucrative career out of being a real-life troll (in the internet sense of trolling, this is not a comment about her appearance).
Indeed. Feministing should know better than to play along. We're just giving her free advertising.
She's a product, a commodity really (or, more specifically, her rants and "shocking" comments are). Like I said above, I'm not really offended by her because I get exactly what she's doing and why. But I still think Feministing and other feminist blogs would do better to not play along with her.
Seconded. Or fourthed or whatever. Attention is what she needs to be relevant, and we are giving it to her. So, we are making her relevant.
AAAAA!
I don't want to be the one to tell the Menendez brothers their parents were never married.
Mmm... stripper pie.
And wearing the same black dress everywhere you go is a recipe for smelliness.
And what about the deadbeat dads?
Easy. The women should have tried harder to keep them around.
/wingnut
Hey I am one of those dead beat dads!
I take my girl to viola lessons twice a week, and then karate lessons twice to three times a week. I pay for half of the private school. I pay support payments on time. I help her build fairy houses and learn fractions. I teach her how to fish and shoot and sew. All this and I don't even have shared custody, just part time visitation. I am such a dead beat it is not even funny.
If my little girl wants to peel for a living then that is up to her. I think she will be too busy fixing the stuff her grandparent's generation let slide off the cliff.
I'm sorry if it seemed like I was saying that all dads are deadbeat dads. Obviously that wasn't my intention. I'm just not sure why conservatives are always yammering on about the evils of single moms when there's obviously a dad out there somewhere too.
You didn't make it sound like that. Northray just chose to turn your comment into being all about him even though you were specifically referring to dads who are dead beats. Like my dad. The prosecuting attorney with six kids he wouldn't raise by four different women.
I'm really sick of people coming in here and getting all defensive over something that has nothing to do with them. We are not talking about YOU when we say something about dead beat dads unless you are a dead beat dad. Just like I'll assume you're not talking about my mother if you say something about mothers who don't raise their children.
I don't know if you are from outside the U.S. but the term 'deadbeat dad' refers to fathers who are not involved in their children's lives both personally and financially. Based on your account of your relationship with your daughter, you wouldn't fall into that category. The reason Rachel pointed asked about deadbeat dads is that Ann Coulter wants to take single mothers to task but completely ignores the other side of the equation... fathers who aren't involved.
Wow! Better tell my mom that I'm a criminal/ stripper/rapist because she divorced a suicidal pshycho! Thanks Ann!
And then they join the GOP and run for office.
Anne Coulter is alot like reality tv stars who say outragous and stupid things but know exactly what they are doing. People call them dumb but they don't care as long as people are paying attention. Maybe she feels smart because people pay attention to her and get angry when she says stuff she knows has no basious? Although, this claim sounds alot like the one made by Steven Levitt and Steven Dubner in the book Freakenomics. They tryed to make the case that crime went down in New York because of Roe v. Wade. Poor women whom are more like to have children whom will grow up to commit violent crimes started aborting babies who would become future rapist and murders. Oh, and stripers too, because taking your clothes off is totaly equal to rape and murder. Although Levitt and Dubner only talked about boys. Hmm, wonder why? Their entire arguement reaks of sexism but it is possible at its base their is a little truth to it. In general I think its interesting to blame the mothers (witch other people beside Anne Coulter do) when by definition the dads are the ones that are not around.
To be fair, Levitt's closing argument in "Roe vs. Wade, Crime Stopper" was that if a woman feels that she isn't ready to be a good parent, there's a good chance that she's right, and that society should trust women's judgment.
The reason Ann "thrax" Coulter's books appear on bestseller lists is the same reason L.Ron Hubbard's books are bestsellers: They scam the system. In Hubbard's case, the Church of Scientology buys the books to artificially boost sales. In Coulter's case, right-wing groups buy them in bulk and offer them as freebies when you sign up at their websites. Those are counted as sales.
I used to work for a major book store chain and the number of people who walk into a store and buy one of these books is minuscule. Most are remaindered, as anyone who wants to get a used copy at Amazon can see (many of the books sell there for pennies).
I wonder if you don't get a lot of people buying these fundys' books because people are too embarrassed to be seen purchasing them. Maybe there's a site that sells these books online and sends them to the buyer in an unmarked cardboard box. Perhaps that site sells adult diapers and impotency medication too.
That actually makes a lot of sense. In fact, it is the ONLY explanation that makes sense (aside from her buying all copies of her own books).
I wonder what the recipe to create people like her is, as I'd like to avoid it. Substitute baking powder for cream of tartar?
What is the formula that created the monster we call Anne Coulter?
At least single mothers wont be blamed for that mess.
Oh yes, SHAME on the women who leave their abusive Husbands/Boyfriends and take the courage to raise children on their own. If only they put up with the beatings, their children could be doctors or conservative authors. Instead their doomed to be murderers and rapists.
*sigh* This kind of bile is exactly why I have to avert my eyes while visiting any book store this week.
Ann Coulter is kind of like the girl who bullies others in middle school. She does it for attention. And if you just ignore it, she'll go away.
In my experience, ignoring bullies just makes things worse.
Most bullies aren't bullying in order to profit monetarily from it. Anne Coulter isn't an insecure kid looking to boost her ego by picking on others. She's a shrewd businesswoman who knows exactly what to say to stay in the spotlight and sell books. And hey, we're helping!
Well, I wasn't really saying we shouldn't ignore her but I felt the need to point out that the "ignore it and it will go away" advice doesn't really work. I was severly bullied all through school
Well, I wasn't really saying we shouldn't ignore her but I felt the need to point out that the "ignore it and it will go away" advice doesn't really work. I was severly bullied all through school and I don't want other to suffer like I did.
Hmm. I guess that makes failures and future criminals out of about half of all kids being raised in the country.
And I love how she throws "strippers" in with the list of violent-crime perpeatrators (rapists, murderers) when strippers are neither criminal nor violent in any way whatsoever. And that she ignores children being raised by *single fathers*, which is becoming more and more common.
Yeah because you know those strippers are just out to corrupt our children.*rolls eyes*
I should go tell my mom I'm just going to be a stripper and a couple short years. Oh and while I'm at it I'm going to rob a bank, molest some kids, and do a drive by.....you know, just for the fun.
Coulter is a fucking moron. I can't believe anyone listens to her at all. She's the most willfully ignorant person. *shakes head* Oh and I like that pose which is intended to disguise her huge adam's apple. bahahahahahaha
Making fun of transsexuals on a feminist website seems a little backwards...
And she's not willfully ignorant. But she does willfully take advantage of people paying attention to her. Which is why she keeps talking this crazy talk.
Agreed. When feminists attack the appearances or use gendered insults on women who do not share their ideologies, they are just reinforcing the patriarchal status quo that says women should be valued first by their looks (or sexuality, feminity, etc). Falling back on those tired judgments shows that a lot of women who acknowledge sexism have yet to understand just how strongly it guides their own actions and thoughts (I don't think any of us can ever fully grasp it, since we are all embedded in culture). If there is a genuine reason to criticize, then do so on those merits. Although, as I've stated a couple times above, I would like to give Ann Coulter as little attention as possible.
I agree with what you said about it not being very feminist to make fun of transsexuals or apply gendered insults...but I do think Coulter is very willfully ignorant. She is t he plug your ears and yell "LA LA LA" kind of intellectual.
I guess America just voted for a stripper criminal rapist murdered then... :)
I wish I could make so much money just for being outrageous and shitty to people. it seems easy enough.
sorry, I meant murderer
Wow, all this time I was holding rapists and murderers accountable for THEIR OWN actions, you know, that "personal responsibility" thing conservatives always CLAIM they're in favor of (at least until they see a chance to blame it on women.)
I'm also sure that if a woman was pregnant and the man wasn't around, and she opted to abort it rather than be a single mother, idiot Coulter would be among the first to condemn her for doing that too.
And the fact that she puts strippers on a par with violent felons shows just how truly demented her thinking is, but then again EVERYTHING that comes out of her mouth shows that.
Wow, all this time I was holding rapists and murderers accountable for THEIR OWN actions, you know, that "personal responsibility" thing conservatives always CLAIM they're in favor of (at least until they see a chance to blame it on women.)
I'm also sure that if a woman was pregnant and the man wasn't around, and she opted to abort it rather than be a single mother, idiot Coulter would be among the first to condemn her for doing that too.
And the fact that she puts strippers on a par with violent felons shows just how truly demented her thinking is, but then again EVERYTHING that comes out of her mouth shows that.
But, single fathers are to be applauded!!!
I mean - does she REALLY think these things? I mean, I know she does, but at some point...I just have to stand back in awe. It ... I mean ... it just doesn't make any sense!
I'm going to seriously answer your question and say "No." Every time I see Coutler say something, she looks like she's thinking real hard about something, as if she's thinking, "That's the craziest way to phrase it, right?" or "Did I hear the talking points coming through my earpiece correctly?"
And let me add that I firmly believe that Ann Coulter isn't real at all and is actually a Sacha Baron Cohen character.
In the annals of trolldom, only Fred Phelps tops Ann Coulter.
Ann Coulter did use statistics to back up her statement. However, I think she could have done more research into the issue.
When you look at it, large numbers of the people we house in correctional facilities are from single mother homes. All of them? Of course not. I think 70% were the numbers she was using. Whom is to blame makes the issue even more complicated.
I am more concerned by a few of the nasty remarks here than I am about the controvercy around Ann Coulter's statment.
No, I think how the data were collected is the bigger issue. The number of sex offenders who are men is close to 100%. Do penises cause a man to become a sex criminal? Maybe. So let's cut off every male's penis to prevent sex crimes from occurring. That's what Ann Coulter would have wanted.
That's what happens when you try to prove something after it has happened. Prisoners were probably asked if they were raised by a single mother by someone who already has something against single motherhood (like Ann Coulter). Maybe George H.W. Bush would have asked if the inmates ever ate broccoli. But when researchers follow children of single parents over their entire childhood to see if they become criminals later, they don't get the same results. Needless to say, the methodology of these studies is much more valid. You still can't make a cause-effect conclusion from them, but the relationship is more valid.
"The number of sex offenders who are men is close to 100%."
Come on now, 100%?
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Most trolls are more concerned about the comments on Feministing than those of conservative wingnuts. That goes without saying.
Even if the father himself is a criminal?
I suppose that's a good reason for them to get abortions.
Anyway, I like the feministe link where she says that all children of single mothers become strippers (and liberals pretend to care about facts!). Makes me think I better hit the gym. Obama is going to do okay when he becomes a stripper, but I'm going to have a lot more trouble supporting myself.
And of course, this is the reason Anne Coulter fully supports forced abortion.
Michael Phelps,
son of a single mother
3 presidents, including Barrack Obama,
sons of single mothers
Countless actors interviewed on Inside the Actors Studio
sons and daughters of single mothers
Heads of state, Doctors, Lawyers,
etc etc.
Probably not as many Republican as Democratic offspring of single mothers for obvious reasons.
Having dated many single moms, I agree with Ann. I think it’s a shame you all get so easily offended rather than looking at the source of the problem: poor choices in breeding partners. If you all would take the necessary precautions, maybe Ann wouldn’t have to write a chapter that “offends” you all so much. And if it were only one child that each of you had, you might have a point. But most of you are repeat offenders many times over. But what everyone here is afraid to break the statistics out on is how many of our US single moms are black and repeat offenders. That certainly would get everyone’s panties in a wad. I also think many women have children due to the ticking of their biological clocks but never intend to actually be wives.
Having dated many single moms, I agree with Ann. I think it’s a shame you all get so easily offended rather than looking at the source of the problem: poor choices in breeding partners. If you all would take the necessary precautions, maybe Ann wouldn’t have to write a chapter that “offends” you all so much. And if it were only one child that each of you had, you might have a point. But most of you are repeat offenders many times over. But what everyone here is afraid to break the statistics out on is how many of our US single moms are black and repeat offenders. That certainly would get everyone’s panties in a wad. I also think many women have children due to the ticking of their biological clocks but never intend to actually be wives.
Having dated many single moms, I agree with Ann. I think it’s a shame you all get so easily offended rather than looking at the source of the problem: poor choices in breeding partners. If you all would take the necessary precautions, maybe Ann wouldn’t have to write a chapter that “offends” you all so much. And if it were only one child that each of you had, you might have a point. But most of you are repeat offenders many times over. But what everyone here is afraid to break the statistics out on is how many of our US single moms are black and repeat offenders. That certainly would get everyone’s panties in a wad. I also think many women have children due to the ticking of their biological clocks but never intend to actually be wives.
So then, you're assuming that everyone here on Feministing is a single mom? Wow. And I'm guessing you're a prize "breeder"? Don't look now, but your ignorance is showing.
Oh, and you can post a comment 18,000 times, and it won't make it any more true.