Quick Hit: Preaching The Gospel Of Good Sex
From NPR: "Pastor Carnell Borden is changing the minds of conservative Christians about a topic usually kept behind closed doors. He says sex is good and God said so."
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Speaking as a not-so-conservative Christian: no shit, Sherlock.
Lulzz
I've read about these people. Some things are innocent, like, who cares: if you only want to think about sex between spouses, go ahead, that's your prerogative. But then they start dictating what True Believers(tm) believe about finesses of faith: one whopper I love is that since the Bible only specifically argues against male homosexuality, we ought to allow only threesomes with two women and one man, to avoid temptation. Oh, and if you get involved with female homosexuality, you gotta let a man watch so God approves, and you can't be all dykey about it either, gotta stay soft and feminine...
"Honest, honey! And, uh, God said he wants me to videotape y'all, too..."
I guess I'm being a cynic, but the hypocrites I'm talking about made me have a laughcry like none other. If this pastor actually has a bone of sense in his body, I have genuine respect for him.
I kind of thought you might be bullshitting (because the idea of christians condoning a threesome of any kind sounded outrageous to me) and then this was the number one google result for "christian threesome" :
http://www.sexinchrist.com/threesome.html
That's what I get for indulging (christ) sexual curiosity/underestimating religious insanity. Won't happen again.
Oh my god, you're not kidding at all. They actually say that women can have sex with woman as long as they don't get all masculine looking. And as long as their fathers don't object.
This is one of the first times Christians have actually surprised me. It's also one of the documents most insulting to women I've ever read.
Wait until you see Sex In Christ's page on BDSM in a Christian Marriage. BDSM, the page informs us, "is best understood as a metaphorical relationship between husband and wife and in terms of spiritual submission". We're also told that "A BDSM relationship between a dominant husband and submissive wife is actually the ideal of marriage set out in Ephesians 5:22-26" (that's the "Wives, submit to your own husbands as to the Lord" passage).
However, it's possible (per Sex In Christ) to have a female-dominant relationship -- AS LONG AS "it is absolutely clear that outside of the bedroom, the husband is the spiritual head of the marriage", and conditional on "an explicit understanding on the parts of both the husband and wife that they will adopt “natural” (read: female-submissive) roles in the rest of their daily lives."
I'm pretty sure the Sex In Christ website is a joke and not real (although I'm betting the ridiculous arguments have been made before, in all seriousness).
It's really dangerous (and simplistic) to start thinking of Christians as "these people," as if they come in all one tradition or belief . . . EVEN the ones who think sex, fulfilling, joyful sex is encouraged by faith.
I'm wasn't raised Christian, but I grew up in West Michigan surrounded by Christians -- liberal and conservative, of all different traditions -- and went to an historically Christian college where virtually everyone actively identified as Christian. There were lots of differences between folks about the relationship of sexuality and faith. And there were many thoughtful Christians who believe human sexuality and sexual relationships are sacred WITHOUT turning around and condemning LGBT people or same-sex relationships. Not the majority, not usually the most outspoken, but that doesn't make them less religious OR less progressive.
I'm all for highlighting these examples of non-fundie faith wherever we can.
Of course it's all about the glorification of the almighty penis. Sex is good because men enjoy it; so women, spread 'em.
Actually, sex is good and God DAMNED it.
Hmmmm. That's nice, somebody is 'okaying' people to fuck! Wow! How depressing.
But I understand the point of the post.
Pope John Paul II said that over 25 years ago.
http://www.theologicalclowning.org/045.html