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I would like to thank everyone at Femministing for not only expanding my understanding of feminism but for showing me the endless brilliance of Sarah Haskins. My debt to you is something that is beyond my ability to repay. :P
seriously, i'm so glad you guys linked to these videos. sarah haskins is awesome.
^ What they said.
You know, I'm an animation fan and have loved a lot of the Disney features. But just once, I want to see a movie end with the heroine saying, " ... Marry you? I'm only sixteen. I don't want to marry anyone yet!"
So true. She so totally rocks.
Ha Ha, I never noticed this before...But I just realized that it says "Sarah Haskins" and then under her name, as her title, is says "Woman"...That had me on the floor - I just never noticed it before. God I love her. Who says women aren't funny?!
That was a humorous video paraphrasing of the first chapter of Andrea Dworkin's Woman Hating.
the panda with the cigarettes. hilarious.
Ahh, a glass of merlot, and Sarah Haskins...yep, 'tis a fine evening.
YES
My four-year-old cousin is a little obsessed with the Disney Princesses. I can only hope that all she's learning is the importance of sparkles and pretty hair (she has really nice hair, but I guess all four-year-olds do) rather than the rest of it. And she does have some excellent feminist babysitters.
Not the statue of the guy I just met!
Loved that, because it's so very true. I bought the new edition of the Little Mermaid. I remembered liking it as a kid (the music in that movie is outstanding) but watching it as an adult with a feminist brain brought the non-musical numbers down for me. And yeah, the moment Ariel yells, "Daddy, I love him!" I was like "WTF" because she had literally not even met him, but just seen him (and also saved his live mind you) and then bam, she's in love. It was ridiculous to say the least.
And Sarah Haskins rocks.
"My flip flop! And it fits!" "No shit, it's a flip flop".
Terrific! I love Sarah Haskins.
Noticing how she didn't mention Beauty and the Beast though. There isn't that much about it to lampoon, Belle was way more awesome than the other placid Disney princesses.
Nthing the "Sarah Haskins is utterly amazing sentiment". I can't wait for the next instalment!
haha oh i love her and her sarcasm!
i miss watching these little "target women" episodes. they bring joy to my life :)
Sarah Haskins.... she hasn't missed yet!
Noticing how she didn't mention Beauty and the Beast though. There isn't that much about it to lampoon, Belle was way more awesome than the other placid Disney princesses.
Really? I get a little squicked out by the "If you love your abusive boyfriend hard enough, he will change for you" storyline.
Anybody have any idea why it is that none of the princesses have mothers? They're either orphans who live with their wicked stepmothers, or they have a single dad. What's up with that?
What's up with that?
Because they're NOT REAL...cartoons are the creation of a bunch of story-tellers, usually men, not a mother. Mothers don't count, you should know that. Only FATHERS count! Sheesh.
And, Beauty and the Beast was about abuse? I tho't it was about trust. hmph...guess I got somethin' to learn.
And why are all stepmothers WICKED?
And my girls loved the Princesses...they all still grew to be independent, happy woman-istas!
I'm pretty disappointed here. Talking about the non-feminism of fairy tale based-stories, many of which are old and from a time when you didn't have add all this extra character development to a fairy tale movie is kind of... well, we already know that. Not necessarily a "Disney" thing. The lack of mother figures is an interesting point, though.
When I saw "Disney Princesses" I was all "Right on!" 'cause I thought it'd be about the whole bizarreness of the Disney Princess franchise. You could go nuts talking about that. That could have been an awesome "Target Girls!"
Really? I get a little squicked out by the "If you love your abusive boyfriend hard enough, he will change for you" storyline.
I don't know... she didn't like him until he had already started to stop being an asshole. And after all, he was the one who needed her to love him, to break the spell (and prove that he had learned the fairy's lesson about how to treat people)... So I always looked at it as "If you plan on being with any reasonably self-sufficient woman in your early adulthood, this would be a good time to grow the fuck up and stop throwing temper tantrums left and right, you spoiled prick."
And then there's Gaston, who she won't marry because he's a sexist ass, and he's portrayed as shallow and thuggish for being obsessed with his own masculine image. So I'd say it's one of the few Disney moves -- maybe even the only one -- to include a helpful message about how men should and shouldn't act, rather than just heaping feminine stereotypes on the heads of six-year-old girls. Too bad boys aren't allowed to like the princesses' movies.
I never watched *The Little Mermaid* when I was a kid. I saw it two years ago when I was 19, and I HATED it. Arial was annoying.
I thought Mulan was pretty awesome though. Her story's based on a Chinese legend that dates back to the 6th century. It's not certain whether she was a real historical figure or simply allegory.
Anyway, this reminded me of the Disney Princess pieces done by Ghada Amer at the Brooklyn Museum that Courtney first wrote about in July. If any NYC folks haven't been out to see the exhibit (it ends this weekend), it was amazing and worth it. But no pictures allowed :(
Agreed, Lydia Encyclopedia and Misspelled.
It must be noted that Belle and Mulan actually go out to meet their respective mates. Mulan actually meets hers at her job!
The Little Mermaid, though... whoo. Any way you look at it, it's a terrible lesson for young girls. At least the original version (with the heroine getting her tongue cut out and feeling like she's walking on knives and dying at the end) can be viewed as a cautionary tale.
As far as I remember from studying fairy tales, the stories don't have mothers a lot of the time to play with the whole Elektra complex thing. The mother is gone, the daughter gets the father to herself. And there are some male counterpart fairy tales that are supposed to play out the Oedipal complex. I guess it fits in as "common theme" throughout literature.
in women who run with the wolves (i know, feminist cliche) it's theorized that the women in fairy tales lose their mothers because you have to remove the mother for the girl to test her independence. It would be hard to believe that the mother wouldn't try to protect her daughter (although sleeping beauty is an exception, because really what can you do against an evil fairy?).
The little mermaid was written more recently, but in the original version she's trying to land herself a soul, not a man. So when Disney attempts to remove religion from the story to make it more marketable, they add romance.
These stories were simplified/altered by Disney to pander to commercial tastes, and thus end up reinforcing the biases in our society. However, I think Lady and the Tramp is actually one of the more destructive ones, because you don't notice the tripe you're swallowing because the characters are dogs.
Actually, AgnesScottie, I've read that there are two major reasons for the familial situations commonly found in folktales.
The first is that mothers died in childbirth a helluva lot more often than they do in the modern age. Dad would have to remarry, or raise the children by himself. And if Dad was a nobleman and remarried, well... how much would Queen Stepmom be galled, knowing that her children were just one heartbeat away from inheriting? She'd try to arrange for some "accident", and try to recruit her own children to the cause, usually with success ("Kate Crackernuts" is an exception.)
Of course, another reason for the predominance of "broken homes", parental abandonment, and children having to flee in fairy tales is that these stories are all about maturation and facing trials by yourself. So for narrative purposes, the story must begin with the protagonist's surroundings being turned against them in some way.
I kind of got over Disney when I started reading ACTUAL folklore. The kind with blood in it. Problems with portrayals of women? Yes, totally. Still, I would second Flippy here if the spot had been on Grimm or something, because I have a really hard time condemning premodern things for not adhering to modern values. But Disney? "Hey, guys, let's take this incredibly ancient and meaningful tale and turn it into a sappy love story so we can sell silly cheap dresses to little girls!" Sarah Haskins can have at it.
Though I do have kind of a soft spot for Disney villains. For some reason they just do sinister so damn well.
I'm also a tiny bit morbid. Could explain it...
ShifterCat, don't forget Jasmine. Yes, princess, harem girl outfit, not exactly great, but she meets her boy when she decides she's not going to have her life lived for her and gets out of the house. She even leaves her cat behind. (Granted, this particular cat is probably 600 or so pounds and wouldn't exactly be good at staying hidden.)
She then gets in trouble because of her naivete about how the world outside the palace works and has to get saved by the streetwise boy, and shortly afterward finds that there are benefits to her station, but hey, actually doing things besides dreaming up new ways to humiliate the fops her father tries to foist off on her is new to her, and she soon discovers she has quite a steel spine. ("Believe me, I will." You could append any verb to end of that line I would believe her. It's very well-delivered)
Oh, and I'm a dude and Beauty and the Beast is third only to Lilo and Stitch and The Lion king for favorite cel-animated Disney flick.
moonwatcher, Mulan had her mother. But she's not really a princess, she was a soldier who married a general.
I'm going to throw my vote in for Mulan as being good healthy feminist material. Among several reasons, the dude's really just a secondary bonus for her in that one.
Mmm. I want to watch Mulan again now.
Anyways, Feministing: are you going to post every Target: Women? Because otherwise I have to worry about missing one.
actually it was when I read about the original Little Mermaid that I started to get squicked out. These fish people have lives and dreams and loves but none of that matters because they don't have a soul? And they bloody well have to go through that much suffering just to try and get one to be worthy?
But then that's a big issue I had with Christianity and humans being special-soul-creatures before I learned about the Little Mermaid.
I dunno - there is a *lot* wrong with 'Mulan' on the cultural appropriation and orientalism fronts, but it's still the only Disney princess film I'd actually want any children of mine to watch.
First, there's this song which (surprisingly for a Disney film) suggests that dressing up and looking like a beautiful princess isn't actually something Mulan herself enjoys - she'd rather be outdoors riding her horse or reading poetry; the pressure to look elegant and sparkly is coming from her mother and other older female figures. It also captures quite nicely that sort of ambivalence around being dressed-up and looking grown up that I remember from being eleven or twelve - it's exciting to look pretty and have everyone paying attention to you, but the restrictive new clothes and makeup are often uncomfortable, and you haven't figured out how to manage them properly yet, which makes you even more awkward than you would otherwise be.
Then, there's the fact that, IIRC, she actually *doesn't* get married to her love interest at the end of the film, although I understand they end up together in the straight-to-video sequels which I haven't seen.
As for the mom thing, I remember reading in a literature class that the mother is often removed from stories about girls because the mother-daughter relationship is too complex to develop sufficiently within the confines of a short story of a 90 minute movie.
That being said, I'm going to throw another vote in for Mulan. Despite her father and the law telling her she can't do something, she goes out and does it anyway. She isn't selfish--the only reason she leaves at all is because she's worried that her father will die. And she's whip-smart--who else could think of what she did with her fan on the roof of the palace?
I have a soft spot in my heart for Disney movies, but I do agree, most of the princesses are rather...ugh. If I have a daughter, she will be reading Ella Enchanted as opposed to standard Disney princess crap.
I was sleeping on this whole thing. I can't help it--I still love my Disney Princesses. When I watch The Little Mermaid, I know I should be objecting, but I can't be angry with Mermaid. As I said, fairy tale based movies, particularly the old ones, are using a symbol of love instead of actual relationships.
Again, I wish the use of the Princesses as "Disney Princesses" was the subject here. There's a whole slew of weird marketing:
No, you can't just like Disney movies, or Disney characters in general. You gotta love Disney Princesses™. Oh, you're a boy who liked The Little Mermaid? Who cares about appeal that reached both genders? It's a Disney Princess™ Movie! Go play with your... oh, crap. We'll try to figure out some franchise for you... but it won't be anything to do with princesses!
The use of the princesses from movies the girls haven't necessarily seen. Think about how long it took for some of those movies to come back on DVD!
Princesses aren't just women born into royalty! Princesses are on the inside, like Mulan... Yes, look! We have a Chinese warrior... who's a princess because of her pure heart or whatever. Okay, back in the closet, Mulan. Oh, and Pocahontas is actually more technically a princess, but who really cares? Tinkerbell! She's a fairy, but everyone loves Tinkerbell! Get into the princess lineup (pre-Disney Fairies Franchise). As for the poor girls who marry princes... having a dress and prince makes you a princess, so get up there (even though that whole wedding thing makes you a "Queen" but nobody wants monarchs with power).
Yeah, Sleeping Beauty has two dresses and the blue one is the one she wears for the big scenes of the movie, but she's our pink princess, so too bad! Just ignore the blue dress in the movie we just rereleased. And note that Jasmine almost never wears her blue harem outfit anymore. Just forget that outfiiiiit.... If only there wasn't that pesky source material!
The made-for-DVD Princess releases are either cheap montages of old footage or lower quality animated movies that weakly teach a lesson. If you thought the original versions of them were one dimensional, these will make the old versions of them look deep. As for sequels, who cares about canon or quality? They're kids, and little girls at that. So long as it has pretty princesses, they're not smart enough to notice!
Note that in cheapie sequels and DVD releases their true love is brought up, but it's extra hollow outside of the original story's context.
The use of the exact same clip art on everything, occasionally editing it. Seriously, go to a Disney store or Disney section of a store and take a look around. When they decided to make it more "refined" by changing the theme from pink to gold, they started adding all this ridiculous jewelry onto the same pictures. They'll never notice.
The sneaking of in-house pop stars onto new DVDs... because Hannah Montana and her ilk are the natural progression from princesses when they realize what a shallow product they've been given.
As for the older people (even though Disney doesn't seem to care that much about the audience it raised from birth to love them for life once it actually gets, you know, disposable income), don't you wish you could have a Disney Princess™ wedding? There is a line of Wedding Dresses! They're super expensive and really only vaguely inspired by the Disney Princesses, but you adults have been buying the same crap with the same clip art for your young girls, so you obviously don't care. You'll buy it. It's not like you'd actually want something clearly Disney Princess-inspired! You're not THAT obsessed... right?
As I said, the nature of the Disney Marketing beast would have made a GREAT Target Women!
haha! She is so awesome. I love her stuff
I like Jasmine myself- we watch Aladdin a lot in my house these days. She's certainly not perfect and I'm sure someone who knows more about it than me could write a lot about the cultural appropriation of the movie itself. If you look at Jasmine, though, you see a woman who fights against being forced to marry, runs away in order to live her own life, goes back to the castle in order to try and help Aladdin, she fights Jafar, she chooses her suitor... Now, clearly it's not perfect because the whole thing is about trying to find her husband, but in that sexist set-up, I thought they did a pretty good job with Jasmine.
Try finding stuff with Jasmine on it though! My four year old has decided she wants princess stuff for her room and Jasmine is hard to find.
Yeah, I always noticed how strange it was that most princesses are raised by either single fathers or are orphaned, sometimes during the course of the film. What the hell message am I supposed to get from THAT!?
I want to put in a plug for Spirited Away along with any other movie by Miyazaki. Chihiro is a strong feminine character who is definitely not a princess. I think that Disney would like us to believe that you just can't have a children's story that doesn't involve an incestuous Daddy/daughter relationship in the plot line. That's what a princess is BTW. One reason for the popularity of anime and manga may be a desire to escape those constricting Disney story lines. They seem to have only one plot that they recycle endlessly.
Yeah, Lydia- would we ever see a story for boys where the prince falls in love with an ugly or scary woman and expected to love her personality?!
What the hell message am I supposed to get from THAT!?
Every Disney story is a purity ball.
Thanks so much for posting this! I have tears in my eyes from laughing. I went to the website to check out some of the other videos--the cleaning one is fantastic, as is the one about birth control commercials. She makes a great point in that one, where she points out that birth control commercials are actually about period control, and never about sex or reproduction.
Oh man, Disney drives me up the wall. I hate how Disney Princesses manage to score two questionable goals at once: make Disney a load more money (as if it needs it), and serving up the most essential girl stereotypes (pink, romance, virginity, and in lots of the older ones, domestic duties), in handy condensed pill form, to young girls. Great!
@ Flippy and jcm2008:
Good points about the merchandising - I don't know how it is in the US, but I have noticed that in both the UK and Australia, it is a LOT easier to find toys/dolls/books featuring the European/white princesses (Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella Belle, Ariel, Snow White). Of the three princesses of colour, Jasmine is the most likely to show up, and when she does, she's more likely to be wearing a glitzy dress rather than either of the outfits she actually wore in the film (both of which had trousers, IIRC).
I wonder how much of the relative scarcity of products to do with Pocahontas and Mulan is to do with the fact that they don't wear big poofy ballgowns in their respective films, how much is to do with the fact that neither of their stories are derived from traditional Western fairytales, and how much is derived from plain old racism/the idea that dolls of colour 'don't sell'.
It's also going to be really interesting to see how much Princess Tiana changes things...
@Shadowen: good points about Jasmine.
@Danyell: the "Loathly Lady" stories, especially the tale of Sir Gawain and Dame Ragnelle, are the closest fit. Admittedly the lady does turn out to be beautiful after all, but it still contains an excellent lesson.
I loved the Disney movies growing up, The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast were from my early elementary school days, I think. I don't remember there being this huge emphasis on the "Disney Princess" part though; at the time, for me, the movies were mostly about the singing crabs and teapots. Although I really identified with Belle because we both loved to read. I was really drawn to the idea of another girl who liked books as much as I did.
My favorite Disney movies weren't ones with princesses, though. I was older for the Lion King, which is my favorite. When I was really little, I was obsessed with Oliver & Company, and watched Sword in the Stone and Robin Hood and Alice in Wonderland over and over.
In honor of this conversation, I just re-watched Beauty and the Beast (online) and am terrified that Belle's desire for "adventure in the great wide somewhere" meant that she would be the captive plaything of a man with a temper problem. Seriously, what does she do at his palace? She gets dressed up. That's pretty much it. And she's stuck there.
The only Disney women I ever found in any way interesting were usually the Evil Women (so many! Step Mothers, Queens, Malificent, etc) or else the spirited, unattached fairy-godmother types. I especially loved Flora, Fauna, and Merriweather in Sleeping Beauty. They had attitude.
"I think. I don't remember there being this huge emphasis on the "Disney Princess" part though"
I don't think it really started until the late 90s or so.
About the mothers and stepmothers.
I read in a book on the Brothers Grimm that this was one of the things they changed from the stories they collected.
In the original version of Snow White it was her own mother who became jealous of her as she grew up.
People felt that mothers couldn't possibly be cruel to their own children so it was changed to step mother.
secretinsidergirl, I loved Flora, Fauna, and Merriweather too! The only scene in Sleeping Beauty I was interested in was the one where they use their magic to bake a cake and make a dress. The rest of the movie bored me.
As usual, Sarah Haskins is dead-on.
And I'm sorry but I just can't why understand anyone would still think that all the princess bullshit that's marketed to girls, especially the Disney variety, is good for girls in any way. They're shallow, insipid, boy-crazy, and overly-sexualized. Add to that the modern-day image of a princess as a bratty, materialistic, self-centered girl who is completely lacking in empathy and an understanding of the real world and I just can't see what possible value there could be in exposing kids to this crap.
In spite of our objections, our friends still try to give our girls princess shit sometimes, and we smile and thank them sweetly and then take the toy straight back to the store and allow the girls to choose something else instead. The last item we were given (a book) had a picture of Tinkerbelle that basically showed her ass-crack through her skimpy, sheer skirt as she gave a flirty little smile over her shoulder while arching her back and thrusting her ass toward the viewer like a porn star. On another page Jasmine's cleavage was clearly visible above her tiny little waist that's too small to allow for actual internal organs. How is this good for girls?
Do not mess with Tinkerbell. She will fuck. You. Up. Srsly, she gots 1337 skilz.
@ brenda
Hooray for Howl's Moving Castle and the like. Personally, my favorite of those was Princess Mononoke. Of course, considering how wild I was as a kid, living with wolves probably was the best idea ever.
Mulan is my favorite disney movie. I want the backstory of Fa Zhou . How bad ass do you have to be that every one who hears your name goes "Fa Zhou, the Fa Zhou?"
In reference to why modern versions of fairy tales exhibit motherless waifs, Joan Gould in "Spinning Straw into Gold: What Fairy Tales reveal about the Transformations of a Woman's Life" writes of a "Split Mother" concept. The Brothers Grimm censored the original stories so that they could sell their written versions in books to the bourgeoisie who did not want to read stories to their children where the mother figure was indifferent to her child's needs, angry, punitive, etc. So the "Good Mother" often dies, and her status is taken over by a jealous queen or witch whom Gould refers to as the "Terrible Mother". The mother figure's role is to compel her female child out of maidenhood/childhood on toward sexuality, yes, but most importantly - fertility. Gould writes, "The Terrible Mother is the force that pushes the pubertal girl out of her snug childhood home and into the trackless forest, where she will either die or find a mate and reproduce - nature doesn't much care which, so long as the species survives... It's the Mother Goddess in her dark aspect, devoted to fertility and death but caring nothing about personal happiness, who forces the girl to grow up."
As for the fathers, Gould writes that fairy tales only deal with one parent at a time. Either one dies (usually the Good Mother), or one is so dominant (frex: Queen in Snow White), the other must take a back seat (frex: Gould suggests that father in Snow White may actually have morphed into the Queen's henchman whose duty it is to foil the evil wishes of the Terrible Mother, save his child, then leave her to face the future alone). Gould points out that the motherless waif never reproaches her father for the disappearing act which, incidentally, comes about the time of puberty wherein he would naturally leave his daughter in the hands of her new mother figure (frex, the new stepmother in Cinderella).
I think my favorite thing about Mulan (and all stories where someone is cross-dressing), is that moment where the love interest has that "We are both men/women, but I find myself strangely attracted to you." Maybe because it's the closest some movies dare to come to same-sex pairings, maybe it's just the sheer ridiculousness of it, I don't know. But that moment where everything changes and the spark seems to ignite, that's my favorite.
I remember seeing 'Mulan' in the theaters. When she got to the arrow at the top of the pole, I yelled out, "YES!"
Growing up, my sisters and I always wanted to be Maleficent from 'Sleeping Beauty.' Briar Rose was boring as hell. Even Prince Philip's horse had more personality.
Mulan should definitely be praised. It's a movie I still feel proud to watch.
* Her parents stay together, are committed to each other, the grandmother and Mulan.
* Even when the men abandon her after finding out she's a woman, they all feel terrible and help her as soon as they realise she's right.
* Them helping her involves an excellent gender role switch where Mulan stays in her normal "battle" costume and the men dress as women.
* Excellent moment in a song about the type of girl they'd like, the men turn to Mulan, she says "How bout a girl who's got a brain, who always speaks her mind?" Showing these are aspects of herself she values.
* She pretty much single handedly defeats the bad guys and the Emperor acknowledges this AND gives her top job as his assistant.
* Her parents don't seem phased when she messes up the matchmaker meeting.
* At the end, when the male interest comes to her house, she only offers for him to stay for dinner, when the grandma yells out "how about forever", Mulan shakes her head. An older female character forward with her sexuality AND a younger one not so interested? Yes, I love this film.
* No revealing outfits, none of this Jasmine or Ariel bikini top business.
Also notice the ultra macho male characters in Disney... there is also malice and sexism directed upon the man, saying if he is not brave or strong or tall enough, he doesn't get anyone and he's a second best nothing.
Think of the Hercules story.
OK, so Mulan is the least objectionable of the "princesses," but she's not really a full-fledged princess. She and Jasmine are generally excluded from the group (look at the image behind Sarah, for instance) in picutres and books about them. There are fewer of her items marketed under the princess label, and when you do see her in the group she's wearing that kimono-type dress that she hates. How is that being a princess? I think Disney was desparate for any non-white female figure they could find, so they included her. Tokenism.
* Them helping her involves an excellent gender role switch where Mulan stays in her normal "battle" costume and the men dress as women.
While this is a cool scene (and comes on all ironic and badass with the "be! a! maaaan!" reprise), we probably shouldn't overlook that Shang also stays in his armor and uses his cape to climb up the columns. As ever, it's fine to have the woman emulating the men, and okay to momentarily put the goon squad in drag for comedic effect, but the love interest's manliness must remain unadulterated.
(I was thinking about the Mulan sequel the other day as a result of this thread and, you know, even though the two of them still aren't married throughout the second movie, don't they still share a tent on the road? They're totally doing it. That's pretty cool.)
"As ever, it's fine to have the woman emulating the men, and okay to momentarily put the goon squad in drag for comedic effect, but the love interest's manliness must remain unadulterated."
True, although he DID join the group at the last minute but I get what you're saying.
Still, the fact that she rescued him twice and he tells her "you fight good" not "you're so beautiful!" is quite amazing for a Disney movie.
secretinsidegirl: "I just re-watched Beauty and the Beast (online) and am terrified that Belle's desire for "adventure in the great wide somewhere" meant that she would be the captive plaything of a man with a temper problem. Seriously, what does she do at his palace? She gets dressed up. That's pretty much it. And she's stuck there."
Exactly! This plays on the whole "bad boy" image as well. I hate the idea that it's "her love" that turns him from beast to man. Even after he hits her! Seriously, what are we trying to say with this? "Little girls, if your man hits you, you must not be loving him enough/the right way. Keep trying, don't give up, your feminine purity will quell his masculine violence! Oh, what's that? You're dead? Oh ... um ..." *whistles, shoves hands in pockets, and strolls away*
man I loved Flora, Fauna and Merriweather when I was little and when I re-watch clips I really love Maleficent now it's been brought up...
Re-watching Flora, Fauna and Merriweather's scene just after the gift-giving I got Granny Weatherwax vibes.... makes me wonder if the new fairy line will have them or just stick to the 'pretty' fairies like Tinkerbell