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While Mayor, Sarah Palin Charged Rape Victims for their Own Justice

Multiple readers clued us into the latest incredibly disappointing fact about Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin: under her mayoral leadership in Wasilla, Alaska, rape victims were charged for their own rape kits. Op-Edna explains:

A rape kit is a sexual assault forensic evidence kit, used to collect DNA that can be used in criminal proceedings to assist in the conviction of those who commit sex crimes. The kit is performed as soon as possible after a sexual assault or attack has been committed. It is usually humiliating and uncomfortable for the victim-imagine enduring that and then paying $1200 just so that the criminal who assaulted you might be caught.

Let's put this into perspective. One of the services that almost every American (with the exception of a few hardcore Libertarians, I suppose) agree that our government should provide is policing and investigation into crime, especially of a violent nature. Rape, one of the most difficult to prosecute, disproportionately affects women--young women, in fact. If Palin wants to play fierce mother hen in her stump speeches, I suggest she explain how it is that she wouldn't do everything in her mayoral power to make sure that rapists be caught and prosected.

What adds insult to injury here is her stance on abortion for rape victims. So, not only did she neglect to support women who were raped in getting the evidence they needed to get justice, but she doesn't believe they should have the right to choose what happens with their bodies after they've endured such violation.

What a frickin' feminist.

Note: the Democratic governor changed this heinous policy in 2000.

Posted by Courtney - September 09, 2008, at 08:26AM | in Politics , Sexual Assault

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But, to be fair, she's a fiscal conservative. Which is why she, as Governor, charged the state for her and her family's per diem travel expenses while staying at home.

[0+] Author Profile Page nestra said:

I'm having trouble finding out how much power the mayor would have over what is being presented as a police department decision. In my town, at least, the mayor does not have the ability to over ride the chief of police on a department policy decision. The city council would be able to call for his firing, but that would be the limit of the power. That's just my town, I'm sure it differs locally.

Also, if you read the article it never states that a victim was ever charged. The police chief says that insurance companies were charged. You could argue that the policy holder pays in the long run when charged for tests, but there just doesn't seem to be a maliciousness here. Instead, it seems the police chief saw that his department could pay for a medical test or the victim's insurance could pay the medical test.

There seems to be some key information missing that I would personally need before passing judgement on this: how much authority, if any, did Palin have to change this policy (she was mayor, not god), and how many victims (not insurance companies) were charged?

If the answer is none and none, it is a non-issue. If there are different answers, it is shoddy reporting not to include them.

[0+] Author Profile Page JennyP said:

She's a disgusting human being. How many women can honestly afford $1200 for a rape kit? And how souless and spiritually bankrupt do you have to be to even consider charging women for this?

I am utterly enraged. Thank goodness the mayor after her changed the policy. I wonder how many women in her town went without the rape kit because they couldn't afford it...

Sarah Palin is an embarrassment to women. She doesn't deserve to have a vagina.

[0+] Author Profile Page Any Girl said:

What about women without insurance? I'm sure they weren't paying $1200 for a rape kit which *might* help them catch the rapist (but usually doesn't because of lack of follow-through). Especially if they can't afford health insurance.

So, if no one was charged, I would venture a guess that was because only women with insurance were getting them; therefore, their insurance payed for them while women without insurance went without.

nestra - well if palin didnt have the power to change policy as the chief executive of a town, she needs to stop touting her executive experience.

and as far as "well no one got hurt by this crappy law" it's just like southern states still having laws against mixed race marriages or homosexuality. maybe getting rid of them may simply be seen as a symbolic gesture as they havent been practiced in ages, but it shows where the heart of the city/state is.

and you have republican leaders hemming and hawing about the additional expense being passed to the taxpayer. cause i guess taxpayers would rather have rapists on the street than pay a few extra dollars a year.

And I'll betcha insurance companies will be balking at covering rape kits, real soon folks. Oops, the woman was drinking? Coverage for rape kit, denied.

Courtney,

That link re: her Democratic successor's overturning of the policy takes us to the original article about the police chief. Is there a link to the article about Palin's successor?

(Also, from a quick Google search, it looks like her successor as mayor of Wasilla was Diane Keller, is a Republican).

Nestra, considering the day & age we live in, in America, I find your logic troubling and faulty.

A lot of scary laws have been put into place in the last 7 years. And sure, I'll probably never be arrested under suspicion of terrorism and be legally arrested without being read my rights, or told why, being denied the right to contact an attorney or have my family notified of my detention. Or...I most likely will never require a late term (*ahem* "Partial Birth") abortion , that now would be considered criminal...

Even though these changes to law may not actually affect me, the fact that they merely exist is scary enough. The fact that Palin would insist that the state NOT pay for a test that would help aid in the capture of a violent (most likely repeating) criminal against women, shows her disdain & apathy for her fellow, less-wealthy-than-she, woman. And it clearly shows what kind of shitty VP she'd be.

And once again I agree with Spike. If this became a matter for insurance companies to deal with, how many of them would really pay for it, if they found any way at all to justify not paying for it? Rape victims get violated and blamed enough as it is. Let's give them a free shot at justice, mkay?

Is there any other crime where it would be in the least bit acceptable to force the victim to pay for the investigation? Disgusting.

[0+] Author Profile Page Blitzgal said:

I think it was the Democratic governor of 2000 who signed the bill to reverse this, and the police chief of Wasilla (who Palin had hired) was arguing against it because he claimed it was an undue hardship to the taxpayer -- to pay for investigating a crime! Palin was mayor at the time the bill was signed reversing the practice.

[0+] Author Profile Page kaylagrrl said:

Nestra-

It's still not ok to charge the insurance companies for a rape kit--it's PART OF THE FORENSIC INVESTIGATION. As wax_ghost said, no other crime forces the victim to pay for the investigation.

And just in case anyone else is wondering, the 2005 re-authorization of the Violence Against Women Act explicitly forbids doing what Palin did before it was passed. A quote from the Office of Violence Against Women:

"The Violence Against Women and Department of Justice Reauthorization Act of 2005 (“VAWA 2005”), 42 U.S.C. § 3796gg-4(d), provides that states may not “require a victim of sexual assault to participate in the criminal justice system or cooperate with law enforcement in order to be provided with a forensic medical exam, reimbursed for charges incurred on account of such an exam, or both[]” (the “VAWA 2005 forensic examination requirement”). Under this provision a state must ensure that victims have access to an exam free of charge or with full reimbursement, even if the victim chooses not to report the crime to the police or otherwise cooperate with the criminal justice system or law enforcement authorities. Prior to VAWA 2005, states were required to ensure access to such exams free of charge or with full reimbursement but could condition the exams on cooperation with law enforcement."

http://www.ovw.usdoj.gov/docs/faq-arfe052308.pdf

Really interesting. Does anybody know how often women are made to pay for their own rape kits? Given the victim-blaming that goes on everywhere, I guess I wouldn't be surprised if this is not an isolated case (not that that in ANY way excused Sarah Palin from not doing anything about it). Just curious - thanks for posting this!

[0+] Author Profile Page maude said:

AARRRG! Just when I think I couldn't get any more disgusted with this VP pick something like this comes out. But of course Palin is a feminist...you know cause the corporate media says so. uggggh

[0+] Author Profile Page thelastpolarbear said:

Courtney - I am a Wasilla resident, and you need to make some quick corrections.

Palin was succeeded by her close friend, Diane Keller, as mayor of Wasilla. Keller is more of a hardcore fundamentalist Republican than Palin is, if you can believe it. Wasilla has not elected a Democrat for a while, and probably will not for a while.

Tony Knowles was governor of Alaska of 1994 to 2002. He is the Democratic hero in the article you link to.

Charlie Fannon is the police chief in the article, still shouting that the city should not pay for rape kits. It should be of interest that in most elections where he is running (borough assembly, whatever), Sarah Palin stumps HARD for Charlie Fannon.

[0+] Author Profile Page Lorriet said:

According to the article quoted, it was the Democratic Governor, in 2000, that changed the law.

http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/2000/05/23/news.txt

"ANCHORAGE - Gov. Tony Knowles recently signed legislation protecting victims of sexual assault from being billed for tests to collect evidence of the crime, but one local police chief said the new law will further burden taxpayers.

The governor signed House Bill 270, sponsored by Rep. Eric Croft, D-Anchorage, outside the Sexual Assault Response Team (SART) exam room at Alaska Regional Hospital. In attendance at the signing were members of victims advocate groups, law enforcement agencies and legislators.

The new law makes it illegal for any law enforcement agency to bill victims or victims insurance companies for the costs of examinations that take place to collect evidence of a sexual assault or determine if a sexual assault did occur."

[0+] Author Profile Page Lorriet said:

Also, in most Cities, the Mayor is part of the City Council, which oversees and approves the budgets, so she would have had the power to effect change in that area, if she wanted to. But not by herself. (Again, this is assuming that this municipality runs like most others, with each Council Member, and the Mayor, voting on these issues).

[0+] Author Profile Page Emily said:

Of all the things I have heard about Palin--the awful stances of choice, the environment, and the war--this one, for some reason, hits the hardest.

This is disgusting. To charge a rape victim to have a rape kit, that, lets be honest, already costs her enough, is despicable.

What other crime would require a victim to pay financially to prosecute her offender?

Is someone going to do a Fuck You Friday to Palin soon? Cuz it needs to happen.

Thanks for the corrections folks. Sorry for misunderstanding.

Is it ok to stop calling her a feminist now? Or is this just another "choice?"

[0+] Author Profile Page teneshia said:

that's it..... i'm officially afraid of this woman and for every woman who has been and may be affected by her dealings with Rape cases.

head for the hills.

Imagine yourself a poor, young college students, scared to death because you've been through the worst experience of your life, can you count on Sarah Palin to stand on your side?

The more I hear about Palin, the more I don't mind busting my ass working 14 hours a day to beat her. This woman, if elected, is going to break through her own glass ceiling while leaving everyone else behind ...

Is it misogynistic to hate Sarah Palin for who she is?

Marc

marc, if you ever wonder whether a reaction you have is misogynistic, just imagine what your reaction would be if it were a man doing whatever it is you're reacting to.

Meg, good call! That's fucking awesome! The best advice I've heard.

[0+] Author Profile Page MaryKay said:

interesting. Reading closely, in Wasilla, it said that the victim's insurance company was billed.

Illinois reimburses the victim if they don't have insurance.

I think it's actually better if the hospital bills the insurance company than to have to pay out of pocket and then hope to get reimbursed. jmho.

Has anyone asked Sarah Palin her opinion? Did she ever comment on it pro or con? Did she even know it was going on?

If that was statewide policy while she was mayor of a town, did she have the juice to change it?

[0+] Author Profile Page Tecolata said:

Saying "insurance companies reimburse" just adds insult and more injury.

First, what if the woman does not have the money to pay up front while waiting (perhaps many weeks) for reimbursement? What is her deductible? Copay? Most insurance companies have an annual maximum. If the woman has previously had serious health problems and is over the limit, the insurance company does not pay. And what if the insurance company decides it's not medically necessary? Does a rape victim also have to spend months or years battling the insurance company?

As others have said, the victim of a burglary does not have to pay for having fingerprints taken, for for police to canvass pawnshops for missing items. It's considered part of civilized society for law enforcement to investigate a crime. The individual paying for enforcement is literally a relic of feudalism.

Just another way of making rape "different" from any other crime.

[0+] Author Profile Page st in ks said:

It seems to me that there are some important questions to be answered about this matter:

1) Is Wasilla the ONLY city/town (it had only about 5000 people when Palin was mayor) in Alaska where raped women were charged the cost of rape kits?

2) Was this practice in place BEFORE Palin took office as mayor and/or was it INSTITUTED BY PALIN or by her selected chief of police? (Remember, she fired the previous police chief because he "intimidated" her.)

These two points are important if blame is to be placed where it correctly belongs.

[0+] Author Profile Page st in ks said:

I might add that I think I know the answers to both questions; however, the story in the "Frontiersman" implies that the bill proposed by the state legislature and signed by the governor was a reaction to the practice but it does not state the circumstances explicitly nor does it explicitly blame Palin or her appointed police chief. There's just a little too much wiggle room between implication and hard cold fact.

We linked to this in our post "Why Sarah Palin is Bad for American Women" at the CA NOW blog: http://www.canow.org/canoworg/2008/09/why-sarah-palin.html

[0+] Author Profile Page st in ks said:

A bit more comment about Palin and her brand of conservatism:

When she took office as mayor in Wasilla, the town had relatively low property taxes and no debt; by the time she left office, both property taxes and sales taxes had been raised and the town was indebted to the tune of $22,000,000.00 -- plus, it was (and still is) embroiled in a legal controversy over the ownership and sale price of the land on which Palin built a sports complex.

The governor's jet, which Palin so famously "sold" on eBay, didn't sell: she ended up dropping the listing and the plane was ultimately sold to one of her supporters for 90% of its value.

The bridge to nowhere which Palin is currently against and claims to have blocked was only dropped from her agenda after it proved to be an embarrassment in the national press. Plus, SHE KEPT THE MONEY. And if she is so all-fired against the bridge, WHY is she building the access roads for it? (Yes, they ARE being built as we blog.)

Then there are the multiple personal vendettas -- not just the one at the center of trooper-gate. Disagree with her and you're out on your a$$; cross one of her friends and you're out on your a$$.

Based on all I read, Palin appears the epitome of an unthinking, unfeeling, bigoted, hypocritical, vindictive, fundamentalist. I guess that makes her a fit replacement for Cheney and right at home on the McBush/Cain 3rd term ticket.

[0+] Author Profile Page Mama Mia said:

In this story, the only people who cared about women were the male governor who outlawed the practice of charging women for the rape kit and the male police chief (not Wasilla's) who said he would rather pay out of pocket himself than charge the victim. Just in case anyone still needed proof that just *being* a woman doesn't mean you automatically *care* about other women. Thank you, Sarah, for reminding us that feminism isn't about genitals.

"Feminism isn't about genitals!" I want a shirt that says that!

[0+] Author Profile Page vicenaria said:

Ways to make being raped worse:

-- Wait until the survivor is starting to get back to normal and then....

CHARGE THEM FOR BEING RAPED!

You know what's really stressful? Getting back on your feet after you've been raped. There are already a lot of financial, emotional, and physical burdens associated with it, and you totally need add to that by getting warning letters from the hospital about unpaid bills and/or having to harangue your insurance company about it!

Luckily, in some areas, there are government assistance programs specifically designed to help you get out of those ruts. But I don't believe that they are ubiquitous, which means that this behavior is disgusting.

Sexist. Do people who are mugged have to pay for the gas in the officer's cars to run down the thief? Do attempted murder victims have to pay for hair and blood tests from the attacker?

Now, I've not read the comments above, but I'd like a more detailed report as to how much Palin in the role of mayor influenced this practice.

Let's not forget that JOE BIDEN, the Democratic VP candidate, was responsible for the initial Violence Against Women act in 1994. It wasn't until 2005 that it became illegal to charge a woman for investigating a crime against her. Democrat Tony Knowles, then Governor of Alaska, outlawed the practice in 2000 (I believe).

There are tons of links to what Joe Biden has done for women. You can google it yourself.

Compare what he's been doing for 26 years in the Senate to what the Palin has been up to. There is no comparison.

[0+] Author Profile Page Lee said:

I just checked Wikipedia about the Violence Against Women Act, and I'm proud of Joe Biden for sponsoring this bill. One thing gave me chills, though:

"VAWA will be up for reauthorization in 2010."

This election just got even scarier for me.

[0+] Author Profile Page PamelaVee said:

I apologize for my crudeness, but this makes me want to throw up on her.

This woman is more terrifying than McCain. I honestly don't think she has any ethics or morality.

[0+] Author Profile Page moni said:
[0+] Author Profile Page moni said:

MSM and Sarah Palin.......

Find out the truth about Sarah Palin at

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html

Pitiful.

[0+] Author Profile Page moni said:

Obama/Biden team attack, attack, attack, Palen and Americans react.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09092008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/how_obama_blew_it_128132.htm

[0+] Author Profile Page moni said:

Sarah....

She can kill with a smile
She can wound with with her eyes
She can ruin Obama's chances
By revealing his lies
She can take care of herself
She is ahead of her time
She never gives in
She will just change your mind

Obama will promise to
Give you the Garden of Eden
And then raise your taxes
And laugh while you're bleeding
As a governor and mayor
Sarah Palin has earned her degree
Blame it all on yourself
She’s always a woman to me

See well known Feminist Susan Estrich's article on Sarah Palin.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20080903/cm_uc_crsesx/op_397259

Moni, do you not have anything to say about the actual subject matter of this post? Did you even read it?

[0+] Author Profile Page thelastpolarbear said:

Regarding some of the questions -

"Did this happen under Sarah's rule?"

This is very difficult to find out, since there isn't much data on the internet to see the policies on rape kits before Sarah was mayor. Someone would have to personally ask Irl Stambaugh (former police chief, quickly terminated by Palin).

HOWEVER. Wasilla did not establish a police department until 1993, which means prior to that we would have fallen under the umbrella of the Alaska State Troopers. Since troopers cover the cost of rape kits, it would have been a change. It may or may not have been established during Sarah's mayoral term, but certainly during her city council years.

"Is Wasilla the only city that charges women for rape kits?"

In the Frontiersman article, they point out that most municipalities in Alaska, and the troopers, cover the cost. Alaska State Troopers will cover most small towns.


Please note - this is a VERY important issue for Alaska - we have one of the highest rape rates in the nation. The rape rate in Alaska is 3 times the national average. Additionally, Wasilla is a relatively poor town - most of the women suffering from rape would probably not be able to cover the cost of the rape kit, and very likely would not have insurance.

[0+] Author Profile Page Karen from Golden, Colorado said:

This story got national coverage from Keith Olbermann on MSNBC's "Countdown" on September 9. He spoke with an Alaskan radio commentator who indicated that she checked out the story with Eric Croft, the legislator who drafted the 2000 legislation. Croft told her he wrote the legislation specifically BECAUSE of the town of Wasilla. (I believe you can find the "Countdown" transcripts or a recorded version of the show itself under msnbc.com. Also, if you are curious about the original "Frontiersman" article, it's under http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/2000/05/23/news.txt.)

I would like to see this story get more coverage, as it's just despicable and Palin is just about the most scary candidate I've ever seen. But on a more practical note, the Democrats might lose this election because we're not hitting back. Absurd lies are being told and, as usual, we're lying down!

If you agree, how about forwarding it on to your home town paper?

[0+] Author Profile Page moni said:

ShifterCat...

Ask and you shall receive. Here is an article from MSNBC that states....

2:38 p.m. CT, Tues., May. 13, 2008

ELKTON, Md. - Starting next year across the country, rape victims too afraid or too ashamed to go to police can undergo an emergency-room forensic rape exam, and the evidence gathered will be kept on file in a sealed envelope in case they decide to press charges.

The new federal requirement that states pay for "Jane Doe rape kits" is aimed at removing one of the biggest obstacles to prosecuting rape cases: Some women are so traumatized they don't come forward until it is too late to collect hair, semen or other samples.

See the full article at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24600171/

The outrage that Palin's town would charge insurance companies for rape kits in 2000! Seems like this is happening all over the country and will continue until 2009 when tax-payers will pay for it.

Let's deal with facts, not fiction.

[0+] Author Profile Page st in ks said:

The outrage is that few seem to care that neither McCain nor Palin is fit for office, much less competent. What's worse, they are probably going to win in November. Most of the main stream media, including most of the broadcast media, are eating from their trough of lies and thanking them for the experience. And those few who do report facts or actually fact-check the talking points are accused of disrespect or being dismissed as the liberal media.

Sadly, I suspect the USA is doomed to 4 more years of McBush. And considering that there will be at least two more appointment to the Supreme Court in that period, I think we can kiss a progressive society and the middle class good-bye.

George Orwell was right -- he was just off by a few decades.

Moni: that other states are doing this isn't good either, but it doesn't erase the fact that in Alaska -- about which thelastpolarbear noted, "The rape rate in Alaska is 3 times the national average. Additionally, Wasilla is a relatively poor town - most of the women suffering from rape would probably not be able to cover the cost of the rape kit, and very likely would not have insurance," this was instituted with Sarah Palin's approval.

[0+] Author Profile Page Courtney said:

That is horrible!

I hope you have a screen shot of the original article--the entire OpEdna site is down now.

Regardless of what proof there is of whether Palin personally backed this heinous policy or not - she certainly never opposed it. The police chief was her hire. And, to quote Bitch, Ph.D.:

One can only assume that she supported Wasilla's policy of billing rape victims for their own rape kits ... not only because Fannon was her appointee, but also because this was four years into her tenure as mayor and because, let's be honest: in a town of that size, the mayor doesn't get to plead ignorance of policies or public statements of her own chief of police."

Thank you, Bitch. That's exactly the problem. Whether you can pinpoint it to her, she condoned it. And it's heinous. Some have said that "this may be necessary in order for the cost of the kit to be made part of court ordered restitution, in case of a conviction." I call BS on this - I can't believe that rape laws cannot be adapted to call for the rapist, if convicted, to specifically have to pay for the test. If that's even important! The issue of paying for the rape test would prevent women from reporting their rape. If you're looking to reduce crime, you want to fund the tools necessary to gain a conviction. If you substitute the word "murder" for "rape" and read the policy back, you realize that no rational person should support such a policy, and most would vote lawmakers out of office over it.

[0+] Author Profile Page Truth101 said:

BEFORE EVERYONE JUMPS ON THIS WITCH HUNT MAYBE WE SHOULD ASK WHO THE SOURCE IS... WHERE IS THIS INFORMATION FROM... AS FAR AS I CAN TELL SOMEONE NAMED "Courtney" POSTED THIS... A LITTLE CRITICAL THINKING PEOPLE!!!! REPUBLICANS ARE USUALLY MORE HARSH ABOUT PUNISHING CRIMINAL AND PROTECTING VICTIMS!!!!!!! I THINK IT IS PRETTY SAD THAT A WEBSITE DEDICATED TO FEMINISM IS TRYING TO RIP APART A WOMAN WHO HAS MADE IT THIS FAR, THEY CANT EVEN POST A LEGITIMATE ARTICLE, THEY HAVE TO MAKE THINGS UP!!!

[0+] Author Profile Page DingoDave said:

Sarah Palin WAS aware of this policy. In fact she even signed off on it in her local government budget.

"Palin, as mayor, fired police chief Irl Stambaugh and replaced him with Charlie Fannon, who with Palin's knowledge, slashed the budget for the exams and began charging the city's victims of sexual assault. The city budget documents demonstrate Palin read and signed off on the new budget. A year later, alarmed Alaska lawmakers passed legislation outlawing the practice...It turns out that Wasilla did not bill sexual assault victims for the cost of rape exams while Irl Stambaugh was chief of police. As chief, he had included a line item in the budget to pay for the cost of such exams. He had only just heard about the Mayor Palin/Chief Fannon policy today, and was just as shocked to hear about it as I was."

You can read the full article here.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-alperinsheriff/sarah-palin-instituted-ra_b_125833.html

[0+] Author Profile Page corkyfluff said:

Here is the USA Today article from September 10 talking about this policy.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-10-rape-exams_N.htm

Sarah Palin didn't have the power to outlaw abortion so she stopped the state from paying for rape kids and saved one babies, fetus's or piece of tissue from being discarded. Perhaps President Palin can likewise save a fetus, by stopping the government from paying for Aid's testing especially for women.

I don't agree with some pro-lifers or anti-choicers that the curse of abortion is like Hitler trying to breed better, smarter, and more tough minded human beings. But even if I did I remember historically Stalin with the help of a crackpot scientist Lysenko fought Nazi eugenic theory by ordering farmers to stop breading plants and animals.

President Palin ordering the government to stop paying for rape kits or Aids testing would be similar, whether or not Abortion is a Holocaust or not.

Ps, I'm trying to start a new group called Pro-Lifers Against Sarah Palin's Extremism, unless some other people interested in the concept can think of a better name.

http://capitolhillblue.com/cont/blog/2419
RichardKanePa

This is Richard Kane again, (RichardKanePA)in Pennsylvania.

I never Goggled Lysenko before posting the 11:29 AM comment which for some reason stated my name as CorkeyFluff not Richard Kane.

When I clicked on,
http://skepdic.com/lysenko.html
I was amazed at the plausibility that Sarah Palin may be about to affect US history as much as Lysenko affected Russian History, Lysenko put a curse on Communism, until Castro removed the curse. Which got the CIA so excited that they began to sabotage Cuban agriculture, which made innovative farmers even greater heroes of the revolution.

I'm sure anyone who clicks on the following link on Lysenko will be amazed,
http://skepdic.com/lysenko.html

http://capitolhillblue.com/cont/blog/2419
RichardKanePA

[0+] Author Profile Page xtine220 said:

What I cannot stop thinking about when I read this story, is the women who did not report that they where sexually assaulted due to the fact that they could not afford the investigation!!!!

[0+] Author Profile Page sheealghlyn said:

I think it behoves us to listen to "truth101" when he/she writes:
A LITTLE CRITICAL THINKING PEOPLE!!!! REPUBLICANS ARE USUALLY MORE HARSH ABOUT PUNISHING CRIMINAL AND PROTECTING VICTIMS!!!!!!!
a little more critical thinking is required; harsh punishment is not about protecting victims as much as it is about creating an overall environment of fear and the practice of making money from the business of prisons (see: American Furies: Crime, Punishment, and Vengeance in the Age of Mass Imprisonment ).
FYI: Health Insurance carriers are not required to "carry" a balance for services under question (or appeal) and the insured (victim) will likely end up with a damaged credit report if the she does not have the money to cover any denied charges.

[0+] Author Profile Page allie said:

Everything I've read about this quotes either ex-governor Knowles or ex-representative Eric Croft and in every case, they spin the state law passed in 2000 as being specifically created because of the situation that existed only in Wasilla. Hmmmmm, you don't think they said that because they're Democrats and Palin is a Republican, do you? No way! That wouldn't have anything to do with it. But the facts refute their contentions.

From the official minutes of the Alaska House Finance Committee (HFIN) hearings on the bill during the 21st Legislature, the following, found at The Alaska State Legislature, was recorded:
"DEL SMITH, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, noted that the Department supports the legislation. He clarified that the cost of collection of forensic evidence and the prosecution of the crime is the responsibility of
the agency that is investigating and collecting that evidence. The legislation guarantees that the victim does not pay. The Anchorage Police Department was concerned that there were certain parties that could pay for the service.

"Representative Croft replied that it is not widespread but that it does exist. He noted that the majority of police agencies do the right thing in this regard. However, some agencies do try to transfer this concern to the individual's insurance.

"LAUREE HUGONIN, DIRECTOR, ALASKA NETWORD ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT (ANDVSA), JUNEAU, commented that these charges occur as a result of hospital accounting procedures. The range of costs can be from between $300-$1000 dollars. The direct charges usually result from the accounting procedures at the hospitals and not the law enforcement agencies. She noted that there has been some difficulty in Mat-Su, Anchorage, Kenai and Sitka and possibly in Bethel. She was not aware of other parts of the State where there was a problem. Ms. Hugonin advised that this problem is not on going and pervasive, but that it does occur more than sporadically."

If this was limited only to Wasilla, why did Ms. Hugonin report "some difficulty in Mat-Su, Anchorage, Kenai and Sitka" rather than saying something along the line of "some difficulty only in Wasilla"? Also note that there was some pushback on the resolution from authorities in Anchorage. As we have noted from the even-handed newspaper articles and such well-respected (cough! cough!) websites like Kos and HuffPo, the only one to complain about it was Wasilla's police chief. What a bunch of rot.

If you want to be like sheep, go on and believe smears like this; I prefer the truth.

Despite significant strides in international law, many sexual violence crimes are going unpunished because of flawed investigations and prosecutions.

[0+] Author Profile Page susanb said:

this is so crazy that rape victims would be charged for their own rape kit. There is so much wrong with palin. i am not sure what she is thinking.
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