Quick Hit: Gloria Steinem on Palin
Gloria Steinem penned an op-ed for the LA Times on Sarah Palin and why she's the "wrong woman" with the "wrong message."
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that was such an awesome article. Well said, Ms. Steinem!!!
Leave it to Gloria, to succinctly state what needed to be said, and to do so with class and dignity. I just hope the lemmings will see the light.
Yesterday NPR asked who we really wanted to hear from on the election...
I just got my wish! :)
Gloria Steinem lost a lot of points with me when she was shilling for Clinton - almost all her points, actually - but she just won a lot of them back. If anything, she's more charitable toward Palin that I would be.
I canceled my trip down to South Jersey tomorrow to see my son and his family because our local weather prognosticators are predicting torrential rains and heavy winds. Evidently Hurricane Hanna is about to pay a visit to the East Coast tonight and tomorrow.
So it got me thinking about how hurricanes seem to be visited upon us much more frequently these days. In rapid succession there was Hurricane Gustav, then Hurricane Hanna and now Hurricane Sarah - the so called ( hockey) mother of all hurricanes.
To the lay person hurricanes seem to be formed in total secrecy, gather power as they consolidate their blowing winds and hot air, and then appear as if out of the blue to cause damage wherever they land.
Hurricane Sarah is like that. A minor depression just weeks ago, Sarah has now become a storm and appears ready to take on the role of a full-blown hurricane.
But unlike Gustav and Hanna - hurricanes which people can only prepare for, not stop - Hurricane Sarah is preventable.
How you ask?
By telling everyone you know, including daughters and mothers, husbands and wives, sons and fathers, lovers and partners, that Hurricane Sarah when coupled with Tropical Depression John, will wreak havoc on their personal lives and the lives of the people they love.
Don't wait. Act now. The storm clouds are building. Don't let this disaster hit our shores.
Posted by Roger
http://unratedunfiltered.blogspot.com/
Finally the voice of reason. Thanks for always being my hero Gloria.
She is Phyllis Schlafly, only younger.
Best line I've heard about this whole debacle.
Wow, I can't even believe that ya'll support Gloria. What a bunch of crock. You should be ashamed of yourselves. This woman is more qualfied than Obama the Marxist and Biden combined. Get your facts straight.
"Get your facts straight."
The only fact in your comment, Mistress Koloth, is the fact that you "can't even believe that ya'll support Gloria". The rest is your opinion.
As it consists entirely of argumentum ad hominem and unsupported claims, it isn't even a strongly argued opinion.
I am surprised there are so many laudatory remarks for this article. Maybe it is just her rhetoric, but it appears that Steinem does not understand what the effect of reversing Roe would be. For a feminist icon, you would think she would be a little more informed. Ironic that she then throws stones at Palin for not understanding the issues.
-Jut
Ms Steinem,
With all due respect for your sometimes misguided and poorly executed efforts toward the laudable goal of gaining equal rights for my mother, sisters, and friends I'd like to remind you that you are no longer politically relevant.
Full disclosure, I like Sarah Palin. Not that I'd vote for McCain because of her, nor do I agree with her on many issues, but she appears to be a far more genuine honest person than Joe Biden. That her opponent for governor was mired in scandal matters no more to me than the fortuitous series of events that led to Obama's election to the Senate (first Blair Hull, then Jack Ryan scandals).
I think we are going to find that Palin is neither honest or genuine. The fact that one of the arguments that she continues to make in her favor (that she was against The Bridge to Nowhere) is easily proved false signifies to me that she is willing to lie and believes the public is too stupid to fact check.
Actually, Jut Gory, it sounds like the person who doesn't know what the real effects of reversing Roe vs. Wade would be is you.
but she appears to be a far more genuine honest person than Joe Biden.
She IS genuine...genuineLY batshit crazy in her views!
That said, as much as I respect Steinem's past work and how she is right on with many of her observations in this article, I wish she would refrain from possibly alienating some undecided voters. Not everyone with an NRA membership shrieks a rebel yell while shooting wolves from a helicopter.
Shiftercat:
She says, "She doesn't just echo McCain's pledge to criminalize abortion by overturning Roe vs. Wade...."
Overturning Roe would not criminalize abortion. That statement is absolutely ludicrous.
I can tell you that, if Roe were overturned today, not a single thing would change in Minnesota (where I live) tomorrow.
Like I said, it may be her rhetoric, and it may be difficult to write with precision in a throwaway line of an op-ed piece. But, if that is not the case, it betrays a fundamental misunderstanding not only about the effect of Roe, but the beliefs of those who oppose it.
-Jut
Why yes, we should believe Jut Gory, who doesn't back up his statements with anything, over people who've kept an eye on reproductive rights and the legal ramifications thereof for years. Riiiiiight.
Also, Jut? I live in Canada. American anti-choice policies may not affect me directly, but just because something's happening outside of my monkey sphere doesn't mean I shouldn't pay attention.
Shiftercat: I never said you should not pay attention. I do not know where that statement comes from. But, yes, follow Ms. Steinem. She has been making a living off followers for 30+ years. So, she must be telling you the truth about everything. Keep following her, blindly, if need be.
But, having said that, if you did not understand the implications of my last post, you may have been misled by the pro-choice crowd about the effect of Roe.
As for not backing things up, what do you want me to back up?
-Jut
Jut,
For talking a whole hell of a lot, you say absolutely nothing. Why don't you expound on your talking points.
As for the criminalization issue, you're right, overturning Roe won't criminalize abortion. It will, however, open the door to state by state criminalization, therefore become directly responsible for criminalization. That is unacceptable.
Wake up, Jut. If the Feministing crowd is "blindly following" Steinem, why did we criticize her for her remarks during the Clinton campaign?
And yeah, you need to expand on pretty much every statement you've made.
I think that people like Steinem and the liberally biased media have been unfair to Palin. Simply because she is pro-life and does not share a liberal ideology, does not mean that she should be smeared and attacked, or that the historical significance of the first female repub. vice president nominee should be downplayed.
Listen to Gloria Steinem's interview with KPFK radio host Ian Masters from September 7, 2008 at 11am (PST):
http://archive.kpfk.org/parchive/pls.php?mp3fil=15097
The interview with Gloria Steinem begins about 7 minutes 28 seconds into this file (I'll post a file tomorrow that does a better job of isolating the Steinem interview).
In the interview, Steinem assesses the Plain phenomena writ large - great stuff.
Dan,
I disagree with you. I had the "right" to disagree and criticized Gov. Palin as much as she had the "right" to disagree, criticized, and passed laws that affect me personally.
Beside a woman already made history, Geraldine farraro, who was the vice president nominee in the late 80's. and Hillary Clinton crack 18 million glass by running for the president in the primary.
for you to imply sexism because I can simply choosing to exercise my "right" to criticized Gov. Palin who choose to exercise her "right" to passed into laws that shall effect me.
From your statement, I supposed you are implying the following:
Gov. Palin had the "right" to disagree with my viewpoints therefore allowing her the "right" to pass into laws that shall affect me.
As a woman, I had an obligation to worship at gov. palin feet for being chosen as the vice president instead allowing me the "right" to judge her not on her vagina but on her credentials and qualifications.
that is not only sexist but affirmative action at the worst, and here I thought that the "right" always said that an individual should be judge on their qualification instead of affirmative action or gender, after all sexism is an urban legend as many of the “right” wing continue to cried about.
I will not vote for the gov. based on affirmative action or gender, something the “right” has always argued against.
I don't had the “right” to disagree with gov. palin but she had the “right” to disagree with me
If you believe that gov. palin had the "right" to disagree with me than it is logical to concluded that you agree that I had the same "right" to disagree with her.
Beside, Mrs. GS was very gracious and respectful of the governor in her op-ed.
Your argument just isn’t “right”.
As promised, here's a better link to the Gloria Steinem interview:
http://archive.kpfk.org/parchive/pls.php?mp3fil=15119
Gloria Steinemm on KPFK Radio with host Ian Masters