She is such a baller. I love that woman.

She is such a baller. I love that woman.

No Way! No How! NO MCCAIN! No shit!!!!

Possibly off topic but...

I hate all the media crap about ONOEZ Hillary Clinton supporters now voting for McCain, and here's why.

Ron Paul supporters. Same basic idea. Nowhere near the level of vitriol. I wonder why? Perhaps it's deemed more OK for (mostly) middle class white dudes to protest?

Oh, and for the record, I'm not voting for McCain. I still hate the mediacrapola.

katemoore, I was a Ron Paul supporter in the primary (though I couldn't vote because I refuse to register as a Republican), and I'm voting for Obama. Ron Paul supporters knew they were going to leave the Republican base in a general election if a hardline conservative (which is what McCain has become) won the primary, because his testicles are so firmly in the grip of the religious right.

The more I've talked to people, the more I'm starting to understand that people do, in time, come to their senses and support the people who want to help them. That seems to be what's happening with Obama right now.

Oh, and, for the record, middle class white dudes have been protesting alot of things at the convention, and we get absolutely no media coverage. So, as okay as it might be for us to protest, it doesn't seem to get anything done anymore.

I love this woman!

Her speech was just what I needed. I am still smiling from it. Thank you Hillary!

"Were you in this campaign just for me? Or were you in it for that young marine and others like him? Were you in it for that mom struggling with cancer while raising her kids? Were you in it for that boy and his mom surviving on the minimum wage?”

Man, that got me and hopefully will convince some holdouts to look at the bigger picture. Wonderful speech! This convention is making me so proud to be a registered Dem.

I agree. This was a great moment, but my favorite part was when she quoted Harriet Tubman..."If you hear the dogs, keep running!..."

I was amazed by this speech. She had great timing, and built up the energy, and by the time she got to the Harriet Tubman bit, I was on the edge of my seat.

Fantastic stuff.

She is great!!!! What a wonderful speech!

There was not a dry eye in my house during her speech. Damnit being an emotional woman, lol. Sen. Clinton has done so much for woman and I hope she never forgets that.

I seriously think that the whole “bitter Clinton supporter” thing is a figment of the MSM for ratings. This election should be a walk in the park for Democrats because they are running against the most disliked President in history, but a cakewalk isn’t “juicy”. So they create a story about inner turmoil within the Dem party because catfights are interesting. Plus, they get the added bonus of painting feminists as bitter sexists.

As someone mentioned before, there are other groups that are protesting as well. The local Republicans in my state and suing the Republican party for not allowing them to nominate Paul, where is all the coverage about inner turmoil there?

Exactly, Jolynn. There is a lot of strife amongst conservatives over McCain. Living in Wisconsin, I've personally run into many more conservatives who hate McCain than Democrats who are angry about how our primary went. Why doesn't the MSM leap on that meme? I have my conspiracy theories, that's for sure, and it doesn't confirm the "liberal media bias" storyline that's out there!

That's pretty much what I meant by "mediacrapola" - the stories are blowing things way, way out of proportion and I am irritated by it. My point was that it's a particularly irritating form of mediacrapola because it gives people a chance to whine about the "ONOEZ UPPITY WIMMINZ". So basically what Jolynn said, sorry if I was unclear.

I loved the speech, by the way.

I'm sure the "Clintonites for McCain" group is a largely media-hyped phenomenon because how could any thinking person who believed in the goals Clinton fought for could believe that President McCain is a better vehicle for attaining those goals than President Obama? It's absolute insanity.

I mean, the man is OK with it being near-impossible for women to bring claims of pay discrimination. It's a basic thing - equal pay for equal work. Obama voted for the Lily Ledbetter Act. McCain . . . well, he couldn't be bothered to show up, but he said he was against it.

loved it....at some many levels.

Sanjiv-
Unfortunately, being a thinking person isn't a qualification for the right to vote. I think there are a lot of reasons that a Clinton vote doesn't necessarily translate into an Obama vote, but one GLARING reason is simply that Obama is black. On top of that he is "inexperienced," has a funny name, and is "Muslim."

I'd like to blame the GOP and the Media for all of this, but I can't help but remember all the anti-Obama stuff that came out of the Clinton campaign and how I just wanted her to concede already, especially as the negativity dragged into late Spring and summer, after it was clear she was not going to win.

No, kate, you kicked butt. I was just elaborating. It is like the media is trying to drive a wedge into the Democrat party. The Democratic party is not one person, but a set of ideals. Why would one person separate us when we all have the same goals in mind?

Blitz, exactly what I am running into in Nevada. Republicans and Democrats are tired of Bush and they realize that McCain will just continue those same failed policies. I think we have such a great chance of turning Nevada blue this year.

Unfortunately, the conservatives I know here in Wisconsin don't like McCain because he's "not conservative enough!" It's shocking, I know. I work in Madison, which is a bubble of liberalism, but you don't have to travel far out of the city to reach the red parts of the state.

But, the evangelical and hard-right disdain for McCain hopefully will work to our advantage. It just amazes me that the media have not picked up the storyline that there is a significant amount of conservatives who are NOT happy with McCain, and now are just frothing at the mouth with all these hints that he might choose Lieberman (I think he'll go with Romney though). And yet this Clinton/Obama divide is hyped up. I personally think the MSM and people who own them are invested in making the Democrats look far more scattered and fragile than the Republicans, even though it's untrue.

She was so totally in her element last night. I love this woman--if I ever meet her I'll probably hug her and start bawling. Does anyone else ever get goosebumps, or even feelings of joy, when they see so many men and women, of so many different races and ages, cheering for one person--one woman--so exuberantly? Seriously, it just fills my heart with gladness.

And yeah, it's really annoying how we hear nothing about the amount of discontent among conservatives regarding McCain. But hey, maybe media outlets will now be looking to throw a twist in their PUMA narrative, and will say that Clinton's speech convinced all those people to vote for Obama. It really makes you think about how often the bandwagon effect in our MSM shapes our discourse.

Even the name PUMA. I don't know who coined it. Google isn't forthcoming on this fact - well, it probably is, but it would involve my sifting through about 200% more crap than I feel like doing at the moment. But it's a rather convenient acronym, isn't it? Ties right into the whole 'cougar' thing. In other words, highly gendered and highly irritating.

katemoore, Will Bower is the leader/founder of PUMA; perhaps he came up with name. And I agree: the name kind of bothers me, too.

She is just so great. My feminist tears started flowing at around this point:

"My mother was born before women could vote. But in this election my daughter got to vote for her mother for President.

This is the story of America. Of women and men who defy the odds and never give up."

She is just so great. My feminist tears started flowing at around this point:

"My mother was born before women could vote. But in this election my daughter got to vote for her mother for President.

This is the story of America. Of women and men who defy the odds and never give up."

I thought this was an absolutely fabulous speech.

Also, did anyone else notice the woman who I believe to be Ellie Smeal (President of the Feminist Majority Foundation) right behind Joe Biden and Michelle Obama? Such a prime seat for her must signal something good for feminists if the Democrats succeed...