This is for you
Now this is a good way to start the week off!
Thanks to Katie from MI for sending this awesome vid along.
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This made me smile. Thanks for posting. :)
That was really great!
Thank you - Thank you :)
Talk about SWOON!
Does anyone know who these guys are? I bet they'd be pumped to see they'd made it onto Feministing.
Another tear-jerker! Thank you so much for posting. It's refreshing and encouraging to see that men out there take the time to speak up on their feminist beliefs...and so passionately too. Thank you!!!
This brings to mind a speech Andrea Dworkin gave to men in St. Paul in 1983:
http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/dworkin/WarZoneChaptIIIE.html
I found this video to be hostile. He got his dick in there, certainly. Making sure women know that he thinks we are sexy and we don't have to change? That we're crazy to think we aren't sexy when all we're told is that there is a standard and we aren't meeting it?
Just because three boys call themselves feminists doesn't mean that they have unpacked anything or examined their own privilege. But bless them for trying.
I'm a feminist, bitch! Respect!
(WOOOO!)
I don't mean to alienate liberal feminists, but I'm not about to start applauding men for crumbs. Wow, he didn't rape a girl when he had the chance. That takes a lot of courage. The fact that he got beaten up for it just shows how fucked masculinity is. As far as I can see, he wasn't playing martyr to feminism, he just refused to rape a girl.
He said she "danced" away sobbing. What does that mean?
That made me cry. Thank you :)
How awesome!
not gonna lie...i'm crying just a little.
Wow, he didn't rape a girl when he had the chance. That takes a lot of courage. The fact that he got beaten up for it just shows how fucked masculinity is. As far as I can see, he wasn't playing martyr to feminism, he just refused to rape a girl.
From what I can tell, he didn't get beat up because he didn't rape a girl, he got beat up because he let a frat guy know how fucked up he was for giving a girl chlamydia on purpose.
Basically, he heard misogyny, didn't let it slide or ignore it, but called someone on it even if it made him the outsider.
Making sure women know that he thinks we are sexy and we don't have to change? That we're crazy to think we aren't sexy when all we're told is that there is a standard and we aren't meeting it?
I don't think he was calling WOMEN crazy, but he was calling SOCIETY crazy for the standards it gives us.
I'm wondering how we managed to watch two completely different versions of the same performance.
Wow, I was blown away, and I have to admit, I'm crying a little. Nice!
Gave me goosebumps!
Admittedly, whenever I see a guy talking about how he's feminist, I am inclined to write him off, but that was amazing.
I thought this was beautiful and hopeful. It made me cry.
Manifestadestiny: I cannot find any indication that this man was talking about how he didn't rape a woman - rather, how he stood up to another man for knowingly giving a young woman an STI. As ElleStar comments, I am confused at how that message is unclear.
I think these young men are fabulous and hope this is an indication that a new generation of men is emerging with an understanding of women's power and our value - as individuals, to society and to the education of men. As they point out at the end, we can teach them and we can influence them to be better men, better humans. I hope to accomplish that with my son, who will be coming into the world in just a few days.
I certainly don't find this "hostile" in any way; I think it's inspiring sand encouraging.
Thank you for the correction--I heard the chlamydia story the third time I watched it. I heard, "He said he purposely gave that slut to me, that she deserved it." Whenever I think frat I think rape, men passing women to each other to gang rape.
But "sexy and fucking crazy to think you have to do anything to change that" is not satisfactory language to communicate a sympathy for a number of reasons, especially when being sexy is something we are taught to try to attain but also curb in order to stay safe from rape and being blamed for rape, and also because I don't feel the need to be objectified as a sex object; I don't know why he thinks he's going to solve our problems by validating us as sexy--that's the very thing that we're trying to resist, looking to men for validation for our worth. Neither is the tone sympathetic--I'm being yelled at by men. The language might be supportive at times, but it's a man yelling at a room full of women and grabbing his dick. I've heard bitch and cunt enough by men; the fact that they are juxtaposing it against anorexia, bulimia, and violence does not stop the fact that they said those words and they went into my ears. The physical communication does not match the verbal communication. If you took the words away, it would look like an abusive tirade by misogynists. The shouting in this differs from Women Deserve Better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iEBQ_Ox7CM
because the woman delivering her words is yelling at the group that dares to claim that what they offer is better for women. (And she kicks ass, completely and totally.) These boys at the beginning say that this is for women, but yell at society and women at alternate times. I dig male feminists, but I'd rather hear my support from someone like Chomsky, who is not going to shout at me and grab his dick while he gets his point across. http://leninology.blogspot.com/2008/07/noam-chomsky-on-pornography.html
Holy shit. That gave me goosebumps.
I think I want to marry them.
I got shivers.
ManifestDestiny: sure, they're not perfect, but they're eloquent and pro-feminist. Let's cut them some slack! I think you may not be familiar with slam poetry, which uses that loud-in-your-face style -- so it's not them, it's the genre.
watery eyes and swoon INdeed!
To those who would rather hear this kind of thing from an intellectual, CMON! They look roughly my age and are far more insightful than a lot of young men i know.
I think it says a lot about the feminist movements slow steady impact on generations. They see the women in their life struggle and demand more! That's awesome! The passion is amazing (not yelling). Their use of offensive words to make a point may seem overplayed or immature (or something). But i really feel thats the point its throwing all those words out there in an attempt to show how horrible, hateful, common and immature they are.
Made my day, i'm sending this vid to my mom. :)
They're not yelling AT women, they're yelling WITH women! They, too, are sick of the double standards of the society we live in. If this is the way they want to say it, more power to them.
I also did not take this video as being hostile towards women. It's passionate. And it is refreshing to hear such passion about women and feminism coming from young men. I agree with _Maeowin_ that they are far more insightful than the young men I know.
This gave me goosebumps.
Holy crap....i love them!
Holy crap....i love them!
I echo those who did not see this as hostile. I was actually rather pleased to see their obvious passion for feminism and women. Hopefully this indicates a shift in attitudes in wider society, slowly but surely - we can but hope.
I thought it was awesome!!!
That was beautiful.
I'm with the other commenters who did not see this as hostile toward women; more like hostile toward the way society treats women.
I absolutely loved it!
It brought a great big smile onto my face.
And I can't believe it brought tears to my eyes.
beautiful, just beautiful!!
I've got chills and goosebumps and a hapy feeling all over! This was amazing!
I wish there were more men in this world that would be more open to the idea of feminism. I know a lot of guys that think like this but refuse to label themselves as a feminist because the title isn't "masculine" enough, or like there should be a masculine name for a male feminist. Besides that, this is one of the most amazing poems ever, and gives so much more passion to see it performed at a slam competition. I definitely cried while watching it, it's just so moving to see men stand up for women because we're constantly being dehumanized by men and called "slut, bitch, whore..." I'm definitely sharing this with my guy friends because maybe this will influence them to stand up for what they believe in.
This is AWESOME. It made me tear up a little. Really beautiful, thanks for posting it.
Granted I am a queer “male” feminist and it makes me smile and to hear other men, queer or not who are feminists, just as it enrages me to her women or men who are anti-feminist. I was not born a feminist I learned and became one. For what it is worth, feminists unite.
Made me cry a bit.
Wow. Goosebumps, tears, shivers. So amazing. I'm totally sharing this.