Same people who say that crap are also the same people who say that the WNBA can't compete with the NBA because "it isn't as exciting".

Hell, that fight was pretty damned exciting. People who are competing at the top level of any event are ta daaaaaa: "competetive". Usually that means they are less likely to passively take crap or what they think is crap from someone else.

Hi I'm a teenage girl and I think it's great for women to succeed in sports and stuff, but why do you support killing little babies?

Hi I'm a teenage girl and I think it's great for women to succeed at sports and stuff, but why do you support killing little babies?

Trolling on a non-abortion, non-contraception post? Wow, "Molly" you must have no life whatsoever.

This line slays me: "Detroit assistant coach Rick Mahorn was among those suspended. Probably justly so. But he didn't start it."

1. Clearly Mr. Chimelis never saw the fight, because if he did, he'd realise...

2. Mahorn was suspended for entering the fracas on his own accord and pushing Lisa Leslie to the floor.

Of course, Leslie wasn't above the fray either, but the attempt to paint the only man as somehow less guilty than anyone else involved in the melee (all women, of course...the savages)renders his argument futile, and clearly reveals the inherent sexism.

On the flip side, I think his comments are spot on with Wie and Danica.

Interesting, this is the same argument used to push women out of politics. I guess we just should never leave the house.

sir no one: You can't be serious. Leslie charged at Mahorn or the player he was attempting to shield. Mahorn put out his arm to block her, and she fell over. she flopped like Vlade Divac for crying out loud.

Lorgus: I think "charged" is a bit of an exaggeration. Leslie was definitely confronting Mahorn, no doubt. But Mahorn did shove her. There's a severe difference between coaches/refs physically trying stop a fight and adding to it. Mahorn clearly wasn't going in guns blazing, but his presence didn't help.

...that Leslie proceeded to fall about 15 feet away from Mahorn was, admittedly, Divac or Gasol-like.

"Trolling on a non-abortion, non-contraception post? Wow, "Molly" you must have no life whatsoever."

Why is my name in quotes?

He doesn't want women to incorporate the worst aspects of men? Men don't have a monopoly on violence and all around dip-shitty behavior, although for some reason that belief makes it easier for morons to excuse men for violence and wax poetic about how women who fight are just setting back their own equality and exploiting themselves. ::rolleyes::

People are starting to freak out now because they're realizing how violent girls and women can be. It's a lot easier to write something off as a "boys will be boys" issue, instead of tackling it as the societal problem that it really is. We're finally beginning to be confronted with this reality, and the "boys will be boys" camp does NOT like it.

Molly,

no one kills little babies or advocates that here. Fetus=/=baby.

your name was in quotes because the poster doesn't believe that Molly is actually your name.

and may I say, if you are indeed a troll, you aren't a very good one. If you are not, you may want to read more before jumping to conclusions.

The writer of that article was a nitwit but thats hardly a revelation. I actually watched the game. This just in: women can be intense emotional competitors and in the heat of battle (just like with guys) sometimes something jumps off. Most sports fights happen when things get to the point where players don't think the referee's are going to protect them or there is beef. Candance Parker is the Jordan-like in her ability to dominate and she's going to get tested. No coincidence Bill Laimbeer and Mahorn the coaches of the WNBA Detroit team were on the Pistons badboys. There team is tough and aggressive. I hate Detroit with every fiber on my being but Mahorn did not push Leslie down. She was coming to the fight and he extended his hand to keep her back and she lost her balance. The lesson here women's sports are compelling and girls play hard too,

You know I just finished a load of whites and I'm now sorely tempted to see if I'm missing a sock, because I'm pretty sure there's one in here.

Lol Leslie might have did a "Ginobili put much respect to her teammate who came over and took a swing at him even though he was three times her size.

Yup, that's exactly why I put "Molly" in quotes, Dori. Jessica has posted about male trolls posting under women's names in order to further their cause. "Molly" could be a woman or not, thus the name in quotes.

And I'll second Lala, for centuries women have had to repress their aggressive side, lest they be thought of in a negative, non "feminine" light. Pulling hair and slapping? Perfectly fine. Throwing actual punches? That's freaking people out.

Oh, dear Jesus. This yoho writes for the local rag. He's always been a jerk, so this isn't a surprise.

can we all at least agree that the rims should be lowered to around nine feet? Only when there is serious jamming going on will this be palatable to me and many others. (fast breaks and wide open soft one handers don't count). These women don't even clap boards on layups. Bor-ring. Call me for the shirts and skins game.

As a woman who played her basketball (and it was my life at the time) in the 80s to early 90s--before WNBA ever existed--I hate to say how antifeminist our veiw was. In those early teen years, there were many aspects about our play that strove to equal, and best the men. We were always looked down on for "playing like girls"...and to us, being able to compete "like men" meant being seen as equal. Meant being seen as actual athletes. (We knew we'd NEVER be seen as actually equal) I can't imagine playing in a time where women's sports gets real respect...aside from offering a "bonding" experience or a place to spend your PE/athletics hours in high school.

Today, I can see much more than the "male" aspirations of our play, especially in our teamwork. But, having that goal--to top the men on the court gave us a unity, a rallying point. We KNEW we had something men didn't. Physically, we gave more than our male counterparts--just to prove we were worthy. As much as this depresses me, I still find great joy in those moments we bonded around being equal to, or better than the boys.

Folks can analyze this for all it's worth, but to me it signifies how we get by, and in our own way, surpass the sexism that is insidious and pervasive. In our trying to best the boys (or just equal them) we found something the boys didn't have---a certain kind of heart in our play. It wasn't about who had the most prolific stats...it was about how we overcame ANY adversity as a team. (Of course, this may come more from having been a player on many B-teams that had their best year placing 4th in regionals than specifically from sexism---but I think it's obvious how sexism changed the way we thought about ourselves and our goals.)
I am a HUGE fan of women's sports, and will always enjoy watching women kick ass more than men hot-shotting it on the court.

That was a very inspiring post Kinlorca :)