Sending this link to my best friend, who actually got splashed with pussy when my son was born...

Refreshing to hear the possibility that one could have a different relationship to motherhood than the prescribed, cultural expectation that ALL women want to be mothers.

Birth is messy, and babies are too... it's just not for everyone.

"Birth is messy, and babies are too... it's just not for everyone."

Actually, up till now, anyway, birth is for everyone. Giving birth, on the other hand...

That actually caught me off guard. I was rolling my eyes is disdain when she was talking about "creation" and all that crap (I cant stand women who get all starry eyed about women being the ones to carry and birth children, and I don’t care if that sounds bad). And then it just totally comes out with it and takes me by surprise.

So thats two comedians now who's thoughts on birth have made me laugh, the other being Bill Hicks.

Usually when people tell me I HAVE to have kids I look at them awkwardly and say "ummm I don't think so....not for me..."
I think now my answer is going to be to glare at them and say "I look at kids and feel nothing! I ovulate sand!!"
love her.

Or you could tell them it's not worth the risk since you meant end up eating them...

*"might end up"...

It's interesting. Often times when there's a female performer/celebrity I really, really like, I feel attracted to her. Like, I want to make out with her.

With Margaret Cho, it's more like I can relate to so much of what she says, that I want to /be/ her. She's definitely one of my heroines.

Nina:

Five seconds before I read your comment I was thinking, "man, Margaret Cho is hot and amazing in so many other ways. I would totally be the luckiest girl on the planet if I could make out with her." haha :)

We were riffing on this in the delivery room when I had my son. And it was the only thing that kept me from flipping out when I ended up having to have 45 minutes of stitches afterwards. I still proudly bear the nickname "FrankenVag," owing in part to this bit. Ah, I love Margaret Cho.

Holy fucking shit! So...wait... your cunt doesn't actually explode, right??? She's referring to, like, tearing or something, not actual pieces of you coming off???? Because, I've read pregnancy and birth books, and they don't say anything about exploding vagina! Anyone? Bueller? Should I be more afraid of childbirth than I already was??

kissmypineapple,
Good to know I wasn't the only one who was wondering about exploding vaginas. That comment about exploding vaginas was dutifully filed away in my overstuffed tocophobic mental folder entitled, "Ewww!"

That's my question also, KMP. Is this some actual medical condition? Do I have to worry?

ergh, skip the first four minutes though. It's just too mean.

This is why I can't watch a lot of comedy. Too much of it is just being mean about other people, especially significant others. Seriously, why does the world need to know that you hated sex with your ex? It wasn't made into a joke. It just sounded like she was trying to humiliate him.

Jessi- it's not like she named him. If she had said his name, then I could buy into the argument that she was trying to humiliate him. Most people are not going to know who she's talking about. I found the bit about her ex funny, but I suppose that's because I can relate to what she's talking about. I've been in a relationship where we didn't fight, but I still wanted out as well.

I freaking love Margaret Cho though. And the part about her friend's pussy exploding is both hilarious and frightening at the same time! Seriously, could someone who's given birth or seen someone else give birth please enlighten those of us who have no clue?

"It wasn't made into a joke. It just sounded like she was trying to humiliate him."

Maybe he was an asshole. Whatever the reason comedians and entertainers want to relate to their audience, and I'm sure there were plenty attending her performance that could relate or recall a similar experience to laugh at it.

Her comedy style really doesn't do much for me, but she's a really cool person.

I so love Margaret Cho! Okay, so she's a little snarky, but she's fucking funny, too. And the fact that she's childfree is equally awesome. Motherhood is not for everyone.

Holy Crap I just rented this and watched it this weekend. Absolutely hilarious ^.^

Margaret Cho, doing her level best to keep the C-Word alive in the 21st century.

What a sad person.

"The thing is, the women who are most likely to look at consensual sex as prostitution are the ones who probably don’t look at it as something sacred. They’re the ones who idolize Sex and the City, who think that women should sleep around like men do, who have dozens of notches on their belts and don’t think they should be ashamed. They’re the ones who don’t realize that sex is something that brings you closer to someone, that is beautiful and emotional and so much more than a physical act. And the more they have sex, the more they hate themselves for doing it, and the more they hate sex."

From:
http://www.cassyfiano.com/2008/05/this-is-what-happens-when-you-cheapen-sex

Personally, Gerard, I think most people have a far too narrow view of what is sacred.

I also think that just because something is sacred doesn't mean you can't joke about it.

ShifterCat,
Gerard is just an anti-feminist posting his irrational right wing crap on a feminist forum. I'm waiting and looking forward for Gerard to be kicked off.

Characterizing sex as "beautiful and emotional and so much more than a physical act" is anti-feminist? Who knew?

No avast, it's more that he states that if you don't view sex as "beautiful and emotional and so much more than a physical act" then you must hate yourself for doing it... Oh, but it's only women of course, hence the "women sleeping around because men do".

I like sex. I like sex with multiple partners. For FUN, not for love. It has never made me hate myself or sex as I have sex with men and women who also enjoy sex for fun and not some fucking power trip.

As I am in a monogamous relationship I no longer have multiple partners, but I still have sex for fun and not love. Not everyone is the same; I express my love separately from my sexuality.

You're probably right, GopherII, but I still think it's a good idea to rebut these notions when they come up. :)

ShifterCat,
I understood your initial reasons for responding. I just hate all these anti-feminist assholes that come on this site simply to espouse their crap.

I'm still left wondering about exploding vaginas????

Nina, I know exactly what you mean. With some women (not ones I know personally) I can never decide if I'd rather be with them, or BE them. It's a total conflict between admiration and attraction.

It is a somewhat confusing read, I'll own that. The "sex as prostitution" and "sex as meaningless act" and "sex as something to hate" ideas kind of chase each other. They don't really link as convincingly as the author would like.

Fenriswolf, you enjoy sex for its own sake, but you apparently don't view it as prostitution. Somebody who does view sex with their life partner as prostitution probably does not like sex all that much (or at least doesn't like sex with that person all that much); otherwise sex would be something to look forward to rather than something to be grudgingly granted in exchange for getting the chores done. It would be "Cool, the lawn gets mowed AND we get to have sex!"

It would not be surprising that the woman who views sex as prostitution with chores as payment would hate that arrangement and hate herself for giving it out on that basis.

It does not necessarily follow that someone who does not treat sex as emotional bonding must hate it, or hate herself -- as you illustrate.