GOP Consultant: Sometimes it's "accurate" to call a woman a "bitch"
So according to GOP consultant Alex Castellanos, Clinton shouldn't bring up in sexism in the election coverage because sometimes women really are bitches. Huh. Good one, asshole.
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what a dick!
Oh, super.
But then, what the hell do you expect from CNN? These are the people who made Paris Hilton's incarceration a #1 breaking news story that they followed feverishly for days....
Sometimes it's accurate to call a man a steaming heap of Santorum.
Yes, it's true--when a female dog runs for office, it will be accurate to call her a bitch. Until then, we expect human females to be treated with the appropriate level of respect.
This is why I generally refer to Republicans as "dicks."
And all men are pricks and misogynists all the time.
Go vote in the CNN poll: Do you agree with Sen. Hillary Clinton that the press has ignored sexism in the campaign?
It's currently 42% Yes. 58% No. Why am I not surprised?
Ack! I don't know why the link didn't work: http://www.cnn.com/
Wow, Maximun asshole points for this guy. Although, before we give up hope on males in general I would like to point out that the other man and the two women were all trying to point out that the campaign has been sexist. Their oppinion sounded much more fair, too bad they were being drowned out by ass-hole man.
I don't know if you were being sarcastic or not, DallasSuz (it's hard to tell on the internet) but if somebody believes it's ever appropriate to treat a woman with disrespect, then yes, they are a prick and a misogynist.
The nature of men IS as pricks and misogynists, which is why the feminist movement still has to fight for every move towards a progressive society. Even profeminist men are still pricks and misogynists, we just know that we're wrong and try to change.
First of all, I
Second of all, I was waiting for somebody on that panel to say "what if somebody called Obama a 'black assh**e'" but then I realized that if somebody had said that, even hypothetically, I probably already would have heard about it and that person would have their job in jeopardy.
That type of name calling--sexist or racist--has no place in any professional political commentary.
Proof that sexism is very much still a problem: people can use sexist slurs and validate them by saying, "sometimes she just is a bitch." Why can't they use a gender-neutral curse for her, like asshole, if they truly think she's mean-hearted? Connecting the toughness and not being genial all the time to femininity is what makes it sexist.
I like how he continually talks over the female correspondent trying to correct him, but stops when the other man starts to speak. Way to show how not-sexist you are, dude.
And personally I don't think calling men dicks, pricks, or misogynists is quite the most productive way to combat this kind of stuff. All it does is bring you down to this guy's level.
"I'm not sexist for saying she's a bitch, I swear! Just because all the attributes I mentioned (i.e tough) would count as positive for a man, and he is never called a "bastard" for it, I'm being totally fair! Pssh you guys are whining like little women."
Ahhh smell in that 21st century bigotry.
"The nature of men IS as pricks and misogynists, which is why the feminist movement still has to fight for every move towards a progressive society. Even profeminist men are still pricks and misogynists, we just know that we're wrong and try to change."
open_sketch, would you please, kindly, KNOCK IT OFF with the constant bashing of the entire male sex? It's tiresome, it's anti-egalitarian, and -- perhaps you hadn't noticed -- it's earning you irritated rebuttals, not feminist brownie points.
And don't you think it's rather telling that women are rebutting your misandry, and you're not listening to us?
I mean, jeez, it's too bad you've had such horrible experiences with your own gender, but self-loathing is never attractive. Make some new friends or something.
I'm pretty sure DallasSuz was in fact being sarcastic: I think she was saying that a blanket label for women is just as ridiculous as a blanket label for men.
Having socially-ingrained tendencies towards misogynist behaviour doesn't necessarily make one misogynist, any more than having socially-ingrained tendencies towards racist behaviour automatically makes one a racist. What matters is remaining aware of our society's flaws, even as they manifest within our own minds, and doing our best to rectify them.
And as for being "pricks"? Well, everyone's a jerk sometimes.
i cringed when I heard him say that nonsense. someone should have called him on it, like one of the ladies there.
however, i agree with him that clinton is wrong when she says the campaign has been sexist, or sexist to the degree that it negatively affected her campaign. many people preferred her opponent for reasons other than her gender
WHY didn't anyone just make the comparison for Obama? Why didn't someone just say "Well, then it should be acceptable to call someone the n-word if they are acting like one." Because everyone knows damn well that it would NEVER be acceptable for someone on the news to use a racial slur, or at least not as freely as they would use sexist slurs.
You can't equate Bitch with aggressive, argumentive or irritating without sexist intent. I am not sure where the confusion lies.
ShifterCat, I'm not saying what I do for feminist brownie points, I'm stating how I feel, my opinion on things. I know I'm very knee-jerk sometimes, and that I likely seem like a horrible self-deprecating asshole. I'm not going to dispute that; you have a right to make your own opinions about me.
Sites like these are the only venue I have for my feelings about my gender. If I'm reactionary, it's likely a result of a lot of pent up frustration regarding gender relations and so forth. I'll try to tone down my hating in the future, but be aware that this is how I feel about this kind of stuff. I can't know if I'm right or wrong, I can just speak my mind.
"Having socially-ingrained tendencies towards misogynist behaviour doesn't necessarily make one misogynist, any more than having socially-ingrained tendencies towards racist behaviour automatically makes one a racist. What matters is remaining aware of our society's flaws, even as they manifest within our own minds, and doing our best to rectify them."
Ah, ShifterCat, where were you when everyone in a thread on racism decided that all white people are inherently racist? sigh.
Oh come on! Like the word bitch is anywhere near as vile and offensive as nigger! The former is merely a term to describe an unpleasant woman, and it's usually used by other women! The former is a blanket term to demean all African-Americans.
"Oh come on! Like the word bitch is anywhere near as vile and offensive as nigger! The former is merely a term to describe an unpleasant woman, and it's usually used by other women! The former is a blanket term to demean all African-Americans."
Bitch is like "Nigga" in one respect. You have to be part of the group to use it as a self referential term.
And yes saying all men are misogynist is sort of like saying all white people (actually I would say all people) are racist.
Misogyny like racism is something we all have internally and is something we have to fight within ourselves.
Further for what it is worth just as there are many women who are seriously misogynistic there are also African Americans who are seriously racist.
When some one plays the "misandry" card though I totally dismiss them. Telling a member of the universally oppressed group that they have a problem with their oppressor's ideology is... Like a member of the KKK telling Black folks they are as bad as he is because they called him on his racism.
All sexism aside (and it's a lot to shovel!), I would much rather have a "bitch" in office than a "nice girl". To quote what I once heard put so well: BITCH is an acronym that means "Being In Total Control, Honey!"
I covered a gender & women's studies course this spring and we talked about reclaiming the word bitch. It was just a few weeks after the Tina Fey thing. MOST of them said it couldn't be done because of things like this. That if we define it as a strong woman, etc....that "the other side" will then try to use it within our parameters. Not excusing him using it...just throwing that idea out there.
Ew...
Since people *claim* that calling someone "bitch" has to do with actions/attitude and not sexism, I've taken to calling men bitches when they act like it (meaning, when they act in a manner that would be considered bitchy for a woman). I do *not* use it when they're being decent guys, which is how some assholes have started applying the terminology -- men using it on other men to put them down, e.g., if they take the time to call their wives/girlfriends during a trip with the guys. Interesting how in both instances it's used to put down people who don't fit one hundred percent into their assigned gender box.
Anyway, I get sick of all the sexist words used against women so I turn them back around on the men -- "bitch" isn't quite as subversive, but one of my favorites is calling guys catty when they're being catty. That's one that really isn't used on straight men, so I used it every chance I get. And when they're arguing with another man over something and it gets a little heated or emotional or irrational I call it a "boyfight" or a "catfight."
These are tiny little things, but they make me feel better. I don't think telling people not to say a word will make it go away -- what we need to do is make it gender-neutral (which is also why I never say man-whore; if he's a whore or a slut, then he's just that: a whore or a slut).
Why is it impossible to talk about Hillary and sexism without someone bringing up Obama's race? They have nothing to do with one another, really. Yes, racism is terrible, but we're talking about sexism here. It's the political version of "what about the menz?!?" Yes, Hillary's faced sexism, but Obama's had it much worse, or so people seem to be saying. Except I don't believe it's true. Hillary's campaign has been beset by sexist comments or attacks nearly every day, while we are thankfully at a point where overt racism is frowned upon by most people and in the media. You can disagree with me over who has had a more difficult time, but it's just more sexism to bring up Obama and racism every time the question of Hillary facing sexism comes up.
Thanks, adminassistant. :)
DallasSuz: If someone calls misandry in response to a criticism of the patriarchy, then yes, I agree that it's a spurious accusation. But there are real instances of sexism against men -- T-shirts saying things like, "Boys are stupid. Kick them." or Mr. "I must atone for having a penis by bashing my own gender" upthread. It's a given that those cases are a lot less prevalent than misogyny, but I still want to affix a sign to those people's foreheads saying, "You're Not Helping".
open_sketch, usually I am all for men getting in touch with their emotional side, but it sounds like you need to do a bit more thinking. Right now, you sound like an anti-feminist parody of a feminist man. That's why I initially wondered if you were a troll in feminist clothing.
Bitch is incredibly sexist, but asshole, prick and dick aren't? Or were you all being ironic?
Comparatively:
I really don't see a point in using vulgarities as they are used so often and so broadly that half their meaning is tied up in vague connotations. Heck a lot of the time they mean "that thing that you find insulting."
Personally, I believe calling someone a malicious, unpleasant, selfish person is far more insulting than calling them a bitch.
Did anyone else see how Alex tried to shut her up by speaking over her and not letting her get a word in. What a misogynistic asshole! Common technique of misogynists, and this is especially exemplified in the book, "Why Women Should Rule the World," by Dee Dee Myers.
Jordan,
Calling a woman a bitch has a more oppressive range than simply calling a man a 'dick.' Some men see an increase in their reputations if theyre known as a dick, and employers see it as a positive attribute. However if a woman is known as a bitch that brings up the unfair dichotomy of saying shes "gone too far" in her assertive, or aggressiveness, or as a way of dismissing her assertive nature as somehow skewed and irrational. If a man is a "dick" most of society see it as simply a temporary thing and do not give much weight to it.
GopherII,
I do not consider being called a dick to be a positive attribute in any circumstance. I've never heard anyone call someone a dick with a positive spin. Quite the opposite, I've started several companies and have heard the word 'dick' applied to powerful men by other men. In all circumstances, it was a warning to avoid them like the plague.
Calling me a dick is incredibly hurtful.
As far as I can tell though, society in general doesn't believe in sexist male insults. Is it because we pretend to not take offense at them? After all, showing any amount of vulnerability isn't masculine.
Does nobody find it painfully ironic that in criticizing this man's use of an inappropriate and derogatory term to describe a woman Jessica used one to describe him? Was he wrong to call Hillary a b**ch? Yes. But to throw another offensive term back at him is hardly taking the high road, here.
Does nobody find it painfully ironic that in criticizing this man's use of an inappropriate and derogatory term to describe a woman Jessica used one to describe him? Was he wrong to call Hillary a b**ch? Yes. But to throw another offensive term back at him is hardly taking the high road here.
Does nobody find it painfully ironic that in criticizing this man's use of an inappropriate and derogatory term to describe a woman Jessica used one to describe him? Was he wrong to call Hillary a b**ch? Yes. But to throw another offensive term back at him is hardly taking the high road here.
"open_sketch, would you please, kindly, KNOCK IT OFF with the constant bashing of the entire male sex? It's tiresome, it's anti-egalitarian, and -- perhaps you hadn't noticed -- it's earning you irritated rebuttals, not feminist brownie points"
shiftercat,
I'm not rebutting what she wrote. How is what she wrote misandrist? Misogyny is THE status quo men have set in societies far and wide, is it not irrational to assume there may be some sort of nature to it? Men are the ones who invented misogyny, so how is she wrong in trying to offer other phiolosophys surrounding it? I agree that it seems feminism has dealt majoritively with misogynistic symptoms, but how tdo we snuff out its orogin? Feminisms aim is to END misogyny, not make excuses for men. open_setch is also right in pointing out that even feminist men are misogynists, so I only think that adds TO her argument.
Can dick or prick even be spoken on national television? As in, "So and so is such a dick!" Could they, would they say that on CNN?
Also, I'm not sure a dictionary can due justice to these definitions.
For one thing, reference materials often vary in context depending on who writes them and the time period in which they were written. Even in few years is enough to kill a word or give birth to new ones.
A dictionary might not tell you if the word is also a name (Dick) or that in certain genres of music a word is practically a synonym for woman (bitch).
Every woman knows that bitch is the 1st weapon of the arsenal used against us for speaking out.
"what did you say to me, B?"
"can't take a compliment, B?"
Bitch is second only to Ho, only because of the porn and music industries. Otherwise bitch would be the queen.
Bitch comes in so many flavors too:
There's
Fucking bitch,
"insert ethnicity " bitch,
"insert skin color" bitch,
"insert body type" bitch
to name a few.
Let's become complacent simple because the word has become ubiquitous.
Arrhhhhh typos! Sorry the last sentence should have been
"Let's not be complacent simply because the word has become ubiquitous"
Also I meant "do justice, not due justice"
I tried to stop this thing but the post was already in the ether...
I'll admit that Sen. Clinton wasn't my first choice for President - especially since my state voted very early during the Primaries. However I have been deeply disturbed by how she has been treated during this campaign. And the evidence of sexism continues to mount. Besides calling the Senator a "bitch" did anyone else notice he called her "abrasive", "aggressive", "irritating", "professional victim" and then said there was "no weakness in this lady"? It's as though this man is afraid to say that he doesn't like her acting outside her gender roles. I have tremendous respect for Sen. Clinton, especially now after seeing all the incredible BS she has endured from all aspects of American society. And, I can hope the one thing we all take away from her Presidential bid (regardless of how successful it proves to be at the end) is that she forced America to take a good hard look at itself; we're not as progressive as we thought. Sexism is alive and well. Now the question remains, what are we going to do about it?
Main Entry: bitch
Pronunciation: \ˈbich\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English bicche, from Old English bicce
Date: before 12th century
1: the female of the dog or some other carnivorous mammals
2 a: a lewd or immoral woman b: a malicious, spiteful, or overbearing woman —sometimes used as a generalized term of abuse
3: something that is extremely difficult, objectionable, or unpleasant
4: COMPLAINT
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bitch
If a woman can be malicious, spiteful, overbearing, lewd, or immoral, then yes, a woman can be a bitch. While calling her on it might not be nice, it most certainly can be accurate. (and no, I am not calling Clinton a bitch)
Main Entry: id·i·ot
Pronunciation: \ˈi-dē-ət\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French ydiote, from Latin idiota ignorant person, from Greek idiÅ?tÄ“s one in a private station, layman, ignorant person, from idios one's own, private; akin to Latin suus one's own — more at suicide
Date: 14th century
1 usually offensive : a person affected with extreme mental retardation
2: a foolish or stupid person
Noname, I am not calling YOU an idiot, I'm just saying that, yes, it's entirely possible for a person to be an idiot.
As far as I can remember, the dictionary was not brought to Earth by a choir of heavenly angels... it was written by humans, most likely men, and thus is as subject as everything else to patriarchal bullshit. It's a word that has grown beyond it's dictionary definition, so it's use in any circumstance by males is as wrong as the use of the n-word by people that aren't black.
For those of you seeing irony in using insults typically leveled against men towards the subject of the original post, the words have by no means the same impact. "Bitch" has long been used to degrade an entire gender, while "dick" and the various words stemming from it are an accurate and concise way of telling a man that he's letting his testosterone do the thinking.
"Quite the opposite, I've started several companies and have heard the word 'dick' applied to powerful men by other men. In all circumstances, it was a warning to avoid them like the plague.
Calling me a dick is incredibly hurtful.
As far as I can tell though, society in general doesn't believe in sexist male insults. Is it because we pretend to not take offense at them? After all, showing any amount of vulnerability isn't masculine."
Ugh..gimme a break! Calling someone a 'dick' IS NOT the same as calling a woman a bitch. Bitch brings up the dichotomy that a woman has to have an unreasonable and irrational balance between being nice, and likable but not to assertive, at least for a woman. This dichotomy is not applied to men. I hope youre not one of these faux male feminists that come on feminist blogs simply to complain about male misrepresentation and how hard it is to be a man. Because seriously, I think the readers all have better things to do than read your, 'what about the menz' threads.
" "Bitch" has long been used to degrade an entire gender, while "dick" and the various words stemming from it are an accurate and concise way of telling a man that he's letting his testosterone do the thinking."
Exactly. Calling a man a 'dick' is used as a way of saying hes being overindulgent with his socially allowed and congradulated assertive and aggressive behavior. Its saying hes indulging in being an ass simply as a reaffirmation of his 'manliness.' Its when he likes to act 'like a dick' simply to stand back and admire himself, while a woman is called a bitch simply for not being complacent.
Its also notable that hes called a 'dick' if hes being overaggressive. I guess they still have to associate being assertive or aggressive to the male appendage.
WheresTheBeef? - I agree, although "idiot" is not the word in question here.
open_sketch - I forgot to indicate in my post to what post I was responding. I was responding to BluePencil's remark:
"Yes, it's true--when a female dog runs for office, it will be accurate to call her a bitch."
I wanted to clarify that the usage of the word in the video was technically accurate.
English is such a pain in the bum sometimes.
If a person is a bitch because they are assertive, then it that is completely unreasonable. Being assertive is one of the hallmarks of good communication and should never be considered negative.
I was going mostly by the dictionary definition, but also by the man's own definition of someone who is abrasive, aggressive and irritating. None of those attributes are found in an assertive person.
I'm afraid I don't understand the conflict between being nice and being assertive. Assertive behavior is identical for men and women. It is characterized by being open, respectful, sensitive to other people's positions, willing to negotiate and non-combative. One of the easiest ways of being non-combative is being friendly, level-headed and maintaining a conversational tone. I can't imagine why any of this would conflict with being nice or likable.
I'm just a guy who believes describing someone using derogatory language in order to bolster an argument is generally a tactic committed by those who are unable to win a debate by tackling the issue itself. I'm forced to conclude that the reason for resorting to defaming the opponent is due to either a lack the intelligence or an indefensible position.
That said, I completely disagree with the GOP correspondent's assertion that calling someone a bitch is ever acceptable for the same reason stated above.
Who cares if "bitch" accurately describes her (allegedly), according to the dictionary (which was written by men)?
The fact that the word is used to describe women, specifically makes it sexist. When it's used against men it's sexist, too, because you're calling him "a woman" and "woman" is the insult.
It's the double-standard that's the problem. If she were a man exhibiting the very same characteristics, she'd be applauded.
And the media never calls male politicians "dicks," nor do they ever debate about whether the term "dick" is applicable to male candidates. Can you even imagine? It's laughable.
GopherII: open_sketch (who is not a woman, btw) had previously spouted sweeping derogations about his own sex on at least three other threads -- his "men don't have the capacity for sympathy" comment is one example. That's why I jumped down his throat this time.
As for this notion that every man is a misogynist prick, I simply don't agree. To rephrase what I stated upthread: It may be hard to fight an enemy who has outposts in your head, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you should be equated with the enemy.
GopherII:
“Feminisms aim is to END misogyny, not make excuses for men. open_setch is also right in pointing out that even feminist men are misogynists, so I only think that adds TO her argument.�
This is the point that GopherII always brings about….but I don’t really grasp the logic of it.
If men are indeed, by their very nature (genetically I assume), misogynistic, as GopherII has stated many times, then doesn’t that actually provides men with the one think that feminism is NOT suppose to give men: Excuses?
The Law Fairy:
“Anyway, I get sick of all the sexist words used against women so I turn them back around on the men -- "bitch" isn't quite as subversive, but one of my favorites is calling guys catty when they're being catty. That's one that really isn't used on straight men, so I used it every chance I get. And when they're arguing with another man over something and it gets a little heated or emotional or irrational I call it a "boyfight" or a "catfight."�
“These are tiny little things, but they make me feel better. I don't think telling people not to say a word will make it go away -- what we need to do is make it gender-neutral (which is also why I never say man-whore; if he's a whore or a slut, then he's just that: a whore or a slut).�
While I applaud the rationale behind the idea, however, I have a hard time believing a man would feel insulted by a woman calling him a bitch/whore/slut….probably because he would realize that the woman doing so is trying to turn the phrase around to use on men, which does take away some of its sting. If a man called a man a bitch/slut/whore however, it would be more powerful, because the veiled insult would be that the man doing the insulting is calling the other man “unmanly�, which generally translates to “like a woman.�
[as a minor off-tangent thing: I do agree with the making terms gender neutral: Maybe more men would feel comfortable taking a bag with them while out…instead of having to hits from friends and strangers alike about them carrying a “man-bag�….similar things would be manliner/guyliner, manboobs, man-panties, man-dress….etc….]
In general though, I’d have to agree with all the posters saying that calling a man a dick/prick is not the same as calling a woman a bitch. When a woman is called a bitch, it’s usually because she’s being assertive, which is usually classified as a “manly� characteristic. When a man is called a dick, (or asshole, bastard, etc), it’s usually because he being aggressive, insensitive, emotionally stunted….things already deemed manly. I dare think that there are men out there who enjoy being called assholes, bastard, etc!
I think a more analogous phrase would be like calling a man a pussy, because that would be used when a man is seen as being fearful/not courageous/not willing to take risks/scared, which in society classifies as a “female� trait.
'If a person is a bitch because they are assertive, then it that is completely unreasonable. Being assertive is one of the hallmarks of good communication and should never be considered negative."
DUH!!!!Thats why its used against women. Her normal behavior is seen as distortive, when in fact its not and she receives the unfair slander of 'bitch.'
"I'm afraid I don't understand the conflict between being nice and being assertive. Assertive behavior is identical for men and women. It is characterized by being open, respectful, sensitive to other people's positions, willing to negotiate and non-combative""
The conflict for women is that if she steps outside of her pre-determined role of not being a door mat, she is a 'bitch.' If shes assertive then shes labeled as a bitch simply because she is not supposed to take on the same behaviors as a male. Its using her second status in society to distort her behavior as wrong, overbearing or irrational. She then feels she has to be 'nice' to win people over so that shes not labeled a bitch, but then people see her as a doormat, because people assume that a woman is inherently passive and they then believe she is not as strong, or aggressive as a man. If a man acted the same way, he would simply be labeled strong, or applauded for being a good leader.
hahaha! Oh, it's funny because he's a j-hole.
You know, I agree that this being on a TV network is messed up, even if it is a little like shooting fish in a barrel, but as a man I find it a little ironic that the first charge towards men using sexist insults is to call them dicks and pricks.
I think this idea that it is technically accurate, and therefore acceptable to call someone these names is just ridiculous.
For an example, let's imagine that after the whole "nappy headed hos" comments, Don Imus called a press conference where he said, "Listen folks, I know for a fact that a many hair brushes have met their ends at the hands of the members of the Rutgers basketball team, and that as members of an international prostitution ring, they do in fact accept money for sex. I've consulted the dictionary (or urban dictionary) and those are technically accurate terms!"
I would still likely respond by calling Don Imus a huge asshole. You know why? Because calling someone a bitch, a ho, an asshole or an idiot, isn't some benign statement of fact. It is at best an insult, and often times, it is a slur.
So, is calling Hillary Clinton a bitch merely an insult or a slur? (note that I don't really think it's acceptable in either sense) However, considering that the word is usually used to degrade assertive women and keep them in their place, I would say yes, it is.
I prefer Tina Fey's take on it. Bitches get stuff done.
i rarely use the word bitch but i hear it all the time and just from my personal experience it usually doesnt have much to do with assertiveness. Usually it has to do with a woman being extraordinarily mean to someone for little reason or fucking someone over or something along those lines. Yes I've heard it to describe managers as well for then they are too agressive and I hate it but sometimes people just go too damn far, women or men, and people just fall back on the words they know best. Lastly I am sick and tired of women acting in reprehensible ways, doing and saying things no professional should do in the workplace, and then wanting it excused by saying something along the lines of "im a bitch, deal with it".
jamespi: Anecdote != data. For every "personal experience" you've had, I bet every person here has at least one to contridict you.
Oh, and as for your final little screed, I've never seen that, and I've been in professional workplaces since I was 17.
I especially love how when the women on the panel try to speak up about the issue, they are run over by the men.
Granted, calling somebody an "asshole" has nowhere near the sexist intent as calling someone a "bitch." However, asshole is still *overwhelmingly* used in reference to males (especially on this website). Therefore, there is some small degree of hypocrisy in Jessica calling the GOP consultant an "asshole" for calling Senator Clinton a "bitch."
I don't think there are any equivalent terms that are as demeaning/sexist for males as "bitch" is for women. Prick, dick, and asshole don't cut it. The only word that can come close is "faggot". The reason "faggot" is *somewhat* analogous is that it's often used to insult men who betray the cultural expectations of masculinity.
I have also occasionally seen this tactic (implying that ostensibly straight men are gay) on this website. Anybody else remember Samhita's post from months ago? Where she said that guys who hug each other or give a pat on the thigh during sports events are secretly harboring homoerotic thoughts?
"some women by the way are named that and it is accurate"
He sounds exactly like people from my home state who say in reference to black people, some really are a *N*.
And that applies to Hillary Clinton how?
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I believe people's use of the words "dick" and "prick" throughout this thread is tongue-in-cheek.