Nice. Something I've only ever heard out of the mouths of frat boys, and Joe Francis, glorified frat boys from someone who considers herself an enlightened, intelligent woman. Of course she isn't, but still, it's pathetic.

And I don't have a tatoo, but surely there are other physical marks identifying me as a whore right? I hope so! What if people can't tell what a slut I am?! I need to work on this...

*rolls eyes* Oh, for Diana's sake... I have about seven tattoos, done by a close friend, (I'm sixteen, got legal consent), and even though I've never had sex, I'm a filthy slut who is compromising the health of a rhetorical fetus. Jeez. It seems, again, to be another way to keep Teh Wimminz! In! Their! Place! They even state "It's okay if men get them, but not women." Because of Teh Fetus. You know, what if that fetus was a girl?

Wait, Jessica, you're a tramp?! I thought you were an ugly man-hating feminist who couldn't get a date. WHICH IS IT?

Pardon me while my head explodes.

I have two. One on my wrist and one on my bicep. And I enjoy casual sex. And I'm a woman. What's up Schlussel? You wanna go?

I find it highly amusing that my 'tramp stamp' is a Finnish protection charm that was traditionally hung outside of ones home to ward off evil spirts, i.e. the 'evil eye' LOL.

The comments over there made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

I have a tattoo on my lower back; OMGZ IMMA WHORE. If you know me, you know I'm as far from a whore as one can get without actually having teh vag sewn shut.

Things like this piss me off. Because of my choice of location for my inking, I'm suddenly a TRAMP?

My favorite thing is the article about the "danger" is this quote:

Finally, Dr. Douglas says, women should be told that while there is no proof complications will arise, there remains a potential risk.

Uh huh. But please, scare women anyway. Don't get a tattoo because probably nothing will happen.

And Jess, that's not why I think you're a tramp, for the record.

Oh, BTW, one's an ankh, one's Jack Skellington, one's a raven, one's a logo from a band I love, another's a swan in flight, and the other two are Zero, and Sally, both next to Jack. I think that Schussel might make up some excuse that 'good Christian women' don't get tattoos of Jeebus or something else Christian. I mean, really, I saw some crazy lady with a FULL BACK tattoo of Jeebus. *eyetwitch* She'd probably let it slide. But mine will say I'm a... what? Heathen? I mean, really.

btw- the epidural thing- i had one with my second daughter and it went fine EVEN WITH THE SKEEZY TATTOO INK ALL OVER MY BACK.

ahahaha. I wonder what it means when you have one close to your vag?

hey, i have a lotus on my lower back, too!

let's be slutty whores/man-hating lesbians together, jess.

I don't know why I'm such a masochist, but i actually decided to read through all the comments. After feeling sick to my stomach multiple times, I found this:

"...tramp-stamp? Geez, how utterly insulting and stupid can you be? I say that as an untattooed mom and grandma. ... making such blanket "she's a slut" statements about women, which includes CONSERVATIVE women, with decorative/meaningful tattoos is indicates more about the lack of class of the speaker than it does about the "slut.""

Oh occasional diamonds in the rough...

Good point, soupcann31! That made me laugh.

It's amazing how many ways people can come up with to express their discomfort at a woman controlling her body. If she can control what's on it she might want to control what's in it, too! Horrifying! Better call them tramps, lest they feel too good about their bodies and choices.

I prefer to get a tiny penis tattoo on my arm every time I have sex. It beats notches on the bedpost, but does make job interviews a little difficult.

I prefer to get a tiny penis tattoo on my arm every time I have sex. It beats notches on the bedpost, but does make job interviews a little difficult.

By her own definition she is a slut... I am sure she doesnt take long to agree to repeatedly put food in her body when she can just ONCE put an IV in and have all the nutrition she needs.

And again the f-ing double standard of men can be pimps/players and whatever other sex fiend but women can't.

My head hurts... ;P

"I'm glad my religion forbids me from getting one."

Hahaha... because goodness knows, she might go hog wild with ink and needles if she weren't forbade. Psh.

My tattoo is on my ribcage. Am I still a dirty slut, or does the location mean I can't claim that label?

. . . or, since my tattoo is in one of the most painful locations you can choose, does it mean that not only do I enjoy repeated penetration, I'm a masochist/like it rough?

The worst part about that article was that she tried to draw a direct line from back tattoos to OMG YOU'RE KILLING YOUR UNBORN CHILD! The articles she cited only discussed sketchy possible dangers in getting an epidural when you have a back tattoo...which would only cause pain to the mom, not the child. And you don't need to get an epidural to give birth. So SHUT THE FUCK UP you scary woman.

You're on, Leigh!

My wish to mock lower-back tattoos is powerful, yet mitigated by the other inanity of equating needle penetration with sluttery. "This is a cultural trend I don't care for, so it's indicative of a greater societal ill" not being a motive i wish to echo. Tacky, yet erotic. Aren't we all.

MissMay12, I'm sorry to bum you out, but that diamond in the rough commentor is a feministe reader who went over to comment a bit of her mind.
Not that it isn't still great, it's just that it's not a regular Debbie reader pissed off...

Am I a sexist pig for being a little turned on imagining Jessica V. brushing her teeth?

I wouldn't have thought conservatives would want women to be able to get out of the pain of childbirth anyway. Aren't we paying for origninal sin or something.

Huh. I wonder what she would say to the topless hula dancer I'm going to get on my hip? (It's a family tradition to have Lulu--Grandpa got one from Sailor Jerry during the war, Dad has one, mysisterthereincarnationofBettyPaige
has one, mybrothertheslacker has one, leaving just me and my sisterthePhDstudent to get one. Mine is scheduled for sometime in Nov.)So...slutty? or lesbian? OOO! I know, I'm a slutty lesbian! My husband is sure going to be surprised.

I have one offset on the side of my lower back...what kind of a tramp does that make me?

One of the commenters referred to Angelina Jolie as a "skank."

I just puked a little in my mouth.

Considering that my favorite and most prominent tattoo is the symbol of the virgin Artemis, does that make a virginal tramp?

I'm sleeved and have about 24 piercings. Now I understand why.

Debbie's wrong though: The tattoo that makes me a tramp isn't the one on my lower back - it's the one on my crotch that says "Fuck Eat Sleep Destroy" in script. She probably wouldn't be too fond of the "Born to Rock" with the skull and crossbones and lighting bolts inked on my (way) lower stomach, either.

I should post a picture of the vag tat, along with the feminist fist I have on my arm on Debbie Schlussel's blog. Maybe it will make her spontaneously combust.

I have the "tramp stamp" directly in the center of my lower back, it's a yin/yang which I love and will hopefully one day add wings too. I got the tattoo honestly knowing nothing about the lower back being a popular spot for women to get tattoes. I lot of women are now getting small tattoos on their lower abdomen (either left or right) is that going to be up for mocking as well? All jokes aside it's actually a good spot for a tattoo. I hardly see people mocking others for getting tattoos on the middle of the back, directly up from the lower middle back, or on their shoulder, arm*, etc. So why is THIS spot so worthy of ridicule? *(aside from the traditional 'barb wire' tattoo on the arm)

And, as someone else has already pointed out, this is just another way of shaming women about choosing to do whatever they want with their own bodies. OF COURSE men can get tattoos, that's macho and forgivable and reflects nothing back on the man about his choices in life, however if a women gets a tattoo, well then she's a dirty slut who'll just let anything into or on her body. They're scraping the bottom of the barrel, though I don't know if that's a good thing.

I have two tattoos, of safety pins "peircing" my skin, just inside my hipbones. That must make me, like, a quadruple tramp. Oh no, I'm so devastated.
Seriously, do people get paid to write this junk?

I've always wanted a lotus tattoo on my lower back...now I'm thinking I seriously need that tattoo, if only to infuriate psycho woman-haters!

I have wings tattooed on my ankle, and I have my ears pierced, and I have my belly button pierced. I must be in the whoredome hall of fame, despite that I've only been with one man and we're still together. It's been two years.

I think she should come tell me I'm a whore to my face. She probably wouldn't have the guts.

Um.. the comments of the self-loathing nitwit Schlussel notwithstanding... I can't believe you've never heard the term "tramp stamp" before, Jessica! It's been common slang for as long as I can remember. Through undergrad at least.

The reason it's called that has nothing to do with "needles going into her body" or other nonsense that conservative columnists of limited IQ can come up with...

the real reason is because, well as far as I could tell in undergrad and hearing that term said by both genders... people think, uh... well, they think the point of the lower back tatoo is to, forgive me, but how do I put this... give the guy some visual eye candy while in certain positions...

Hey, I know, but don't look at me! I didn't come up with the phrase! :O

I LOVE your lotus! I have the symbol for year of the tiger on my lower back hip. I guess that I am just a total tramp.

when my dad found out about mine (butterfly, lower back), he told me 'only whores and loose women get tattoos.'
next time i was home, 'hey! look what my daughter did. how cool is that?'
i think he always wanted a 'rebel' in the family.

Cool tattoo thread. I only have a black ankh on my right shoulderblade but I'm definitely planning on getting more. I really want to get a lotus like Nana Osaki's from the Nana manga/anima/movie/nation.
I used to have my nipples pierced, which I miss a lot. That was such an awesome piercing. I wonder what kind of whore that makes me.

Please, for the love of all that is holy, stop using that awful phrase about "throwing up in [your] mouth a little" when conveying disgust. It's just gross and played out, kind of like threatening to throw bleach into your own eyes when seeing something you don't agree with.

Now that I've gotten that off my chest:

What really pisses me off are women who just love to bash other women using sexism, all for the hope of a patriarchal head-pat. Ugh.

This seems to be rather endemic to all of women, not just conservative women (though they do tend to spout it a lot more, IMHO). If there were ever a way to get this across especially to younger women who like to tear each other apart at that level ("slut"), I'd be happier.

Also: tattooed as well. Just my upper left arm.

"the real reason is because, well as far as I could tell in undergrad and hearing that term said by both genders... people think, uh... well, they think the point of the lower back tatoo is to, forgive me, but how do I put this... give the guy some visual eye candy while in certain positions..."

You're right about that, ForbiddenComma. I've never heard the term tramp stamp before but I have heard people refer to lower back tattoos on women as, ahem, "come-catchers" on several occasions.

You're right about that, ForbiddenComma. I've never heard the term tramp stamp before but I have heard people refer to lower back tattoos on women as, ahem, "come-catchers" on several occasions.

rotf "Come catchers"? lol! That is so awful, but I'm highly amused hahahaha

I think what surprises me most is that there's still this stigma attached to tattooed women in general, no matter where they're tattooed. It seems more commonplace to be tattooed in present times, but I've doing some research since I'm considering a half sleeve, and I was appalled at the comments people were making about women with visible tattoos! Most of them were along the same lines- "Women with tattoos look trashy/slutty/etc." It seems to be a common theme across the board with female body mods. Heaven forbid a woman voluntarily takes it upon herself to not fit conventional beauty standards...

Also, "come-catcher"?!! I have never heard that one, and glad I haven't! Ew.

My mother-in-law, who is a church-going evangelical Christian, has a tat on her lower back. Guess she didn't get the memo.

I wonder what DS thinks about those of us who get tatoos because our radiation oncologists require them to calibrate our treatment? Are women with those tat's sluts for chosing to embrace modern medicine rather than letting 'god's will be done'. For the record i haven't had radiation...yet. but i have lots of surgery scars from cancer that have taken my ovaries and breasts. if i get a tat, does that still make me a slut...when the parts of me that are evidently the most "VALUABLE" are gone? I mean, that "is" my function as a woman - provide boobies and ovaries to children and the menfolk...
right?

p.s. for the snark impaired, my value is not my lost boobies or ovaries. i am valuable becuase i am ME.

Wow. Congrats, Debbie Schlussel, that's officially the dumbest thing anyone's ever said, EVER.