That's hilarious. I would love to relax about "gay stuff" but how can I when there is still such a disparity between the straights and the gays/bis/les/trans? Give everyone equal rights under the law and socially, and I will relax, I promise... also once we ge rid of problems relating to gender, race, etc, etc

It's wonderful that straight white dudes are so relaxed about gay stuff, race stuff and women's stuff. "Where's the fire?" they breezily say as the rest of us run screaming.

Excepting, of course, that a lot of straight white dudes aren't relaxed. What they really mean is "I think everybody should just ignore the gay stuff, and maybe it'll go away." Because, a lot of straight white dudes are decided not relaxed when, say, they think a gay guy is hitting on them.

Good point, roymac. Relax about their lack of civil liberties. Be warned about their desire to get in your pants!11!!1!

I do find my self agree in part with O’Reilly which is troubling to say the least. Though I probably agree with him for different reasons.

It is ridiculous that GBLT issues should be relevant in a political campaign. It’s ridiculous because the idea that equal rights would be opposed is frankly un-American. I should not get a vote on whether my fellow Americans enjoy equal protection under the law. Gay marriage directly affects no one except gay couples who want to get married, yet it is THE issue for a sizable chunk of the electorate who feel threatened when anyone dares to not share their view of the world.

I too look forward to the day when no one cares what a candidate thinks of gay rights because it’s a none issue.

It is ridiculous that GBLT issues should be relevant in a political campaign.

I agree. I hate that there are jerks out there who make us all spend time and energy on what should be a no-brainer. I wish we could give GLBT citizens full, equal civil rights and move on. I realize the issues are complex, but the fact that there is such a vociferous anti side is depressing.

Bill O'Really needs to mind his own business. No one questions his right to marry the partner of his own choosing (though we may doubt any such woman's sanity).

the hypocrisy of bill o'reilly has ceased to surprise me. there's nothing that man could say that i wouldn't already expect him to.

on a totally OT note: I've been digging through the feministing archives trying to find a comment about American Apparel. I seem to remember someone saying something about a different clothing company that wasn't such asshats, and had AA quality in their garments- can't seem to find it anywhere. Does anyone know a garment company that's comparably in quality to AA (minus the harrassment,anti-union, sexist piece)?

He kinda has a point. Everyone should relax about the gay stuff. They should relax, and stop taking away their rights. They should just relax and "allow" (I don't know how to word it so that it doesn't make it sound like they're being permitted to do something that is a right in the first place) them to get married, adopt, have in vitro fertilization, etc....
Unfortunately, I don't think that's what he meant by "relax."

giffy, exactly.

O'Reilly and his ilk should take their own advice -- why don't YOU guys relax about all the gay stuff? If you'd just calm down, we could get the right laws in place (i.e., the ones acknowledging that, yeah, gay people are like whole people and everything) and wash our hands of the whole mess.

"Gay marriage directly affects no one except gay couples who want to get married"

Some people see civil rights and marriage as an elite country club - it cheapens the value if everyone has access.

Gay marriage won't destroy marriage any more than it has already been destroyed by straight people. For example: Sen. David Vitter cheated on his wife with prostitutes, Ted Haggard loved snorting meth and then having gay sex, and let's not forget Bill O'Reilly's sexual harassment law suit (Is it a cheap shot for me to mention that?). I wonder what Mrs. O'Reilly thought of that! I bet she took the Hillary Clinton passive-aggressive approach.

In conclusion, marriage is like voting. It's no fun unless certain groups are prohibited from doing it.

When has Bill O'Reilly been relaxed about anything? haha.

Oh Papa Bear. I'll relax on this gay stuff when you stop acting like I'm an animal for liking girls. Seriously, me marrying another woman is like me marrying a goat? Nice.

I have two thoughts on this.

First of all, I never "chose" to be STRAIGHT. I have no control over whom I become attracted to or whom I develop crushes on. Isn't that one of the big concepts in our culture - "you can't help who you fall in love with"? So it always boggles my mind when people claim being gay is somehow a choice when if they really thought about it they'd realize that THEY can't help whom they're attracted to, either.

Second, in my opinion, even if being gay WERE a choice (and it's not, but let's go with these right-wingers for a sec here), it wouldn't matter. Plain and simple. We live in a country that was founded on the principles of religious freedom and freedom of conscience - so in other words, even if being gay IS a choice, PEOPLE ARE FREE TO MAKE THAT CHOICE. Engaging in sadomasochism is a choice, engaging in sex of ANY kind is a choice - I think we can all agree on that. And since we live in America, a land of supposed freedom to live one's life the way one chooses, we should all be able to make our own choices about our sexual lives. It's that simple. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter whether it's a choice or not - this is a matter of civil liberties either way.

This movie is discomfiting, but I wonder if that's only because I know there will never be a charming indie movie about a sympathetic female character who is obsesed with her dildo and takes it everywhere with her and insists that her brother invite it to the dinner table and call it Jonathan.