What the FUCK (profanity!!) did you say that was so "dirty?" I don't have sound right now so I can't listen to the clip.

Maybe if you're really lucky, your abortion provider will be a giggly lesbian herself, and you two can plot your next profane disease-laden hookup.

(Also, I thought the behavior that has led many men to disdain females in the first place is RAMPANT ASSHATERY.)

Seeing and/or interacting with actual feminists really blows the anti-feminist mind.
All the conflicting feminist stereotypes bouncing around in their heads. "You're pretty but feminists are ugly! You're a lesbian who sluts around with men and has abortions for fun!"

And a fundamental misunderstanding of rape and sexual assault is a requirement for these idjits.

When I was in grade six, my mother got mad at me for giggling-she said I was contributing to the idea that women are nothing but giggle females who get pregnant and have babies.

Of course, there was a deeper issue involving her disliking the fact that I had friends (with whom I giggled) who weren't my sisters. Later diatribes led me to believe that she was also concerned that I was a lesbian (because the only young girls who have close friendships with other girls are lesbians?). So how was my giggling going to lead to pregnancy, if I was a lesbian? Does giggling cause pregnancy in lesbians?

Strangely, my mum and I get along great now.

To add to my last comment, I think a lot of anti-feminists are deeply disturbed by the sexual attraction they feel towards feminists.

Over at Feministe, some troll told Jill she was a "freak show" for being the only hot feminist in the world. Hahaha. You know they're jerking off to her picture (and yours) and hating themselves for it. They have to call you lesbians and threaten rape to make themselves feel better. They need psychiatric help.

JESICCA HAS A POTTY MOUTH ON HER AND SHES INGORING GODS HOLEY PLAN FOR WOMEN - I WILL PRAY FOR HER SLAVATION

"A wise person loves a rebuke."

That sounds either Biblical (Proverbs or Ecclesiastes) or something someone says before affixing the ball-gag and busting out the studded paddle.

Actually, I think they're on to something. Lesbian sex is best when it's giggly and slutty!

"Dirty on the Inside"

Now that just has to be a title for something. Chapter title in your next book, maybe? At least a blog post.

The fact that you're getting flooded with emails like that is just evidence that you need to keep doing what you're doing. As long as feminism remains a dirty word to mainstream America, your site and the work you do are vital.

That sounds either Biblical (Proverbs or Ecclesiastes) or something someone says before affixing the ball-gag and busting out the studded paddle.

Funny how those two things can sound so similar sometimes.

Slattern, I wholeheartedly agree, and couldn't put it better myself.

I just discovered BookTV the other night and I'm sad that I missed this reading.

I did watch a reading Michael Eric Dyson gave for his book "Know What I Mean? Reflections on Hip Hop" and I was absolutely blown away. As a feminist and a music lover, he really spoke to my heart about a lot of the issues that I've been struggling with in regards to underground music (specifically hip hop, but I was able to take his message and apply it to my current disgust at a lot of the stuff that goes on in underground hardcore as well). For those of you not familiar with Professor Dyson, I strongly recommend that you check him out. I've not heard anyone speak up against misogyny like this so eloquently or passionately in a long time.

Actually, Christians should be teaching lesbian sex in High Schools if they want to control unwanted births. Or masturbation. Or contraception. But wait, Right Wingers are categorically opposed to any statistically effective methods of preventing pregnancy.

I'm beginning to believe what George Carlin said - "Republicans [only] want live babies so they can make dead soldiers."

Hahaha! That post made my day. Sometimes, rather than getting upset, I just use such e-mails as comedy.

The way I hear it, NOW has a lot of hate mail that's used as sources of humor and inspiration!

You should one day publish all your funny/hate mail into a book!

lyra_silvertongue, do you know any good websites with things I could read by Michael Eric Dyson? I would LOVE to read something to apply to underground hardcore. My friends and I constantly struggle with what we can do to improve the scene.

I know all of my beliefs that run counter to feminism find their core in giggling. I'm surprised no one has told you guys this!

I've always felt that a person's level of "fame" is inversely proportional to the quality of hate mail they receive. When you're "small-time", you tend to get reasonable, rational mail from people who are bright enough to care. The more well known you become, the more the nuts come out of the woodwork.

By that measure, you are fast approaching Vonnegut.

(Side note to nervous_aesthete: There are lots of good deals on Dyson's books on half.com. A couple of the books are just a couple of bucks, plus shipping...so you could pick a few of 'em up for 5 bucks total. And they're worth owning.)

I saw Jessica speak in SF (though I can't tell if it's the same reading as the BookTV one, since I sorta refuse to download RealPlayer) and one of the things I was impressed with was that here we were in this itty-bitty bookstore on the Pier, with tourists mulling about and feminists (and others) listening attentively, and the venue in no way seemed to change Jessica's presentation; there just was no question around toning down language or anything. And I found it refreshing as...heck.

I swear like a sailor at times, but I wouldn't have been able to speak from such a position of confidence while reading from certain parts of the book...and I was very impressed that Jessica could (though it seemed like this was a non-issue for her). And it struck me as a few people shifted around uncomfortably when she said a few choice words, that doing so was one kind of feminist act.

Props to lyra-silvertonge for the excellent handle choice. I've got your Dust right here.

I think our biggest concern should be that people actually watch CSPAN.

Interesting about the giggling. Because it's also really common to criticize women for not smiling enough. OK, gals, so: smile=OK
giggle=no
seen=OK
heard=no
curse=no

this is by far the funniest mother fucking post in a while. i can't stop giggling.

Dear Misogynist,

I saw your email to Jessica, and wanted to comment.

First you used misogyny gratuitously, which immediately puts you in a lower class, in which a lot of anti-feminism already loiters.

Second, you focussed on trivial details (like the manner in which Jessica spoke) and ignored the larger, important issues, (such as the content of Jessica's speech) which is the type of behavior that has led many women to disdain anti-feminist males in the first place.

Oh, and fuck you.

What if you say "fuck" and then giggle because you said a naughty word?

JESSICA ROCKS!!! Nuff said.

Go Jessica. You use those dirty, dirty words and get all the wingnuts in a tizzy. Of course, they can use those words when they're referring to people who don't cowtow to them but you? Oh no. Then it's WRONG.

In the immortal words of Eric Cartman, "Fuck, fuckity, fuck, fuck, fuck."

It is NOT a Federal issue and RvW took it away from the states. That was wrong

RvW prevented the states from taking it away from the women. It is an individual issue and RvW protects that.

And oooh, look: complaining about 4 billion dollars in AIDS relief while our taxes fund a ridiculously bloated military budget? *eyeroll*

In the "No Comment Necessary" thread, someone posted a link to "Killing Us Softly." I thought it was a great video, and decided to look through the comments. Why is it that anti-feminists seem to believe that by calling someone "a stupid fucking ugly-ass bitch cunt," that should "get back in the kitchen," they have won the debate? Do they really think that a feminist is going to say, run off crying and decide that s/he's totally right, and that she should go doll herself up and get cracking on a pot roast?

[finally delurking]

If the person doesn't want to offend why do they send the message knowing they will do such a thing? Bad excuse dear, at least start as if you mean to go on.

"Your words were profane! "

I have no idea which words are we talking about but really, for Christ's sake! (now, that's profane, right?) For someting to be profane there must be a prestablished something that is inside the 'correct' lines so who is to say that the commenter's view is the correct one? pfft!

And giggling it's kind of natural, some people giggle some others don't. Really that's probably worse than claiming which words are okay to come from your mouth. *shakes head*

It's amazing how a lesbian can end up getting over 100 abortions. Logically, it wouldn't work. Maybe it's just a rare situation?

There are so many stereotypes bouncing around in that guy's head that they don't even make sense anymore.

"A wise person loves a rebuke."

If that's true, then spanking model Adele Haze must be freakin' Socrates.

(She is pretty smart, now that I mention it... Maybe I need to get rebuked more often.)

That last one: are you a lesbian or a slut?
Why can't you be both?
And how on earth are you supposed to not giggle when people are so ridiculous?

Ahh, the things a person set out to hate you will come up with as complaints. The logic!!

nervous_aesthete,
I tried to find a stream of the talk I watched on BookTV, but I couldn't find it. Not that he said anything ABOUT hardcore at all, but I found some of the things that he was saying about misogyny in hip hop totally applicable. One statement in particular, "the price of her admission is the loss of her identity" I found to be incredibly poignant. I think that hardcore suffers from sexism in some of the same ways that hip hop does, and Prof. Dyson's criticism of those attitudes is so refreshing.

I'm proud to be left wing crazy!

When you're getting hate mail from the backward elements of society, you know you're doing something right. Every dominant empire, class, and individual cries loudest and most incoherently before their fall.

(I am not at all disturbed by the attraction I have towards feminists. I guess that means I'm not anti?)

Hahaha. You should post more of these.

There should be a band called The Basic Left Wing Crazy. Anybody with me on this one? I'll need a bass player.

if these people hate what you say so much they can simply not watch! obviously someone is scared by what you are saying, afraid of what it might do!

i use fuck like a comma, big fucking deal! guess i am just a big dumb never rebuked enough potty mouth? guess i am not very lady like either! i might go cry about it now! (*sarcasm*)

jessica, what you are doing is changing lives! you are the kind of woman that i want to hold up as a role model for my five year old daughter! i can only hope she will grow to be as outspoken and strong as you! (*giggle*)

I do love it when ignorant, narrow-minded people have the courage to come out of the closet and truly own it. Here's how I'd respond:

Dear Kind Sirs,

Thank you ever so much for your astute comments. It is rare that people such as yourself have the courage to "keep it real" and provide much needed, indeed pleasurable, rebukes.

It is indeed true, as you incisively observe, that I am "dirty inside". Like other living things, my insides contain large amounts of blood, mucus, and what might be called excrement-in-waiting. While this kind of biological precision is impressive, I do have some difficulty understanding its relevance to my comments.

As for the kind gentleman who inquired as to my knowledge of "HIS PLAN", I am very well acquainted with HIS PLAN. I receive regular updates on my Blackberry. This week, HIS PLAN appears to include picking up some dry cleaning, returning several DVDs to Blockbuster, and a "lunch thing" on Thursday with Boddhisatva Buddha.

I apologise for not addressing all of your admittely insightful comments, but I have a crazy left-wing orgy to attend this evening and I can't bear to be late again. As much as I love a rebuke, I can't bear to be tardy again.

I always hated that whole "swearing means you're dumb" stereotype. I for one swear when I get passionate, whether it be about politics or cookies. And the fact that they said it "puts you in a lower class" really got to me. It seems to reinforce the view that poor people are uneducated and therefore swear a lot. Now, I'm a poor college dropout who swears a lot, and I still consider myself to be intelligent, and there are a lot of other people like me I consider intelligent too. There are also rich people from Ivy-League schools who never swear who are total idiots.

My point is, profanity is not an indicator of intelligence. And also these cookies are fuckin good. (Had to put it in there somewhere.)

I always hated that whole "swearing means you're dumb" stereotype. I for one swear when I get passionate, whether it be about politics or cookies.

It seems to me that stigmatising "obscenities" while ignoring why someone might feel inspired to use them in a particular case is a very convenient way to take the language of anger away from those who are justifiably angry.

I always hated that whole "swearing means you're dumb" stereotype. I for one swear when I get passionate, whether it be about politics or cookies.

It seems to me that stigmatising "obscenities" while ignoring why someone might feel inspired to use them in a particular case is a very convenient way to take the language of anger away from those who are justifiably angry.

I agree with JaclynF. For some inexplicable reason, I always find the need to giggle during lesbian sex. Maybe it's just that shirking "God's" plan is so much fun.

Fuck that asshatery, indeed. I'm glad I belong to a religious community that thinks loving sex, even (gasp) *lesbian* sex, is another a way we can experience the divine presence on earth.

Anyways, I gotta go; I'm late for my weekly abortion.

lyra_silvertongue
I got your amber spyglass.

I mean, I found that link to Michael Eric Dyson's "Know What I Mean? Reflections on Hip Hop" on BookTV