Can we please put women in a separate category from children instead of writing about them as one thing: womenandchildren. Use "or" instead of "and." Anything.

Mirm, I wasn't trying to categorize--the report leaves out instances of violence against both women AND children. The instances that the article talks about are different, they're not trying to conflate women's and children's experiences with violence as the same thing.

But more generally, I understand what you mean.

They seem to be determining the level of internal violence with factors that affect the level of external violence. Women's issues don't fit into that mix? Violence against women doesn't affect the overall peacefulness of a country or its relations with other countries? I see there are indicators for women in parliment and gender ratios. Those factors are not very telling. I am very curious about how many women contributed to the creation of the peace index. Maybe that is part of the problem. Troublesome.

I'm still reading the statistics and parsing them. Is it possible that this stuff would be covered under "violent crime?"

They don't give much details about what this means. But absent details, I'm not sure how one could conclude either that said violence was included, or that it was omitted.

Do you have any further details on the "violent crime" statistic and how it was assembled?

Sailorman, the CSM article goes into details. Basically, countries that are known for notorious violence against women and/or children scored oddly high. For example, Egypt scored at 73 despite the fact that 90% of the women have gone through FGM. Chile got 16, despite the fact that UNICEF reports that about 26% of women have suffered domestic violence. While it's good that they survey violent crime, in many countries violence against women, especially by family members, isn't considered a crime, so they won't get the whole picture.

It's frustrating how many people don't view domestic violence as "real" violence.
When I attended a seminar about women and domestic violence, a speaker said that when a woman is murdered we always guess that her partner is responsible. It really says something about our views on violence in the home, because he should be the last one we suspect! After all, a healthy, normal relationship should never be violent. Unfortunately, they too often are.

Sadly, many women enduring domestic violence never report it.

"While it's good that they survey violent crime, in many countries violence against women, especially by family members, isn't considered a crime, so they won't get the whole picture."

Isn't this attitude why some people think having more unmarried young men will make a country more violent (a la "they wouldn't beat up *people* if they had *wives* to beat up instead")?

this makes me kind of sick.