If we prove he's not really a feminist, does his business fail?

Ah well.

The Colbert Report had a video segment on Monday on faux-feminism (in the form of a woman who teaches other women how to pole dance) that reminds me of this.

Michelangelo thought men's bodies were beautiful, not women's. Venus de Milo was also from a completely different time. Ancient Greece is very different from the Renaissance.

Dumb.

I uh... yeah. Do guys ever go to these places in mixed-company? You wouldn't think, but. I've been to Hooters twice--on my 16th birthday, with my mother. Years later, my big sister would take me on her bachelorette party which included dinner at Hooters, wherein she would flirt with the servers in my name ("Joseph's a producer from California"). In both cases, the women I was with had a blast, in stark contrast to my own experience. I live near a local burger/beer joint that features serves in "foxy cop" costumes, and I see women in there all the time. In summation, there is actually a mixed-gender market for this bullshit--what's this dude got against nipples?

So THAT'S why the Greek restaurant near me has a big plaster Venus de Milo!

Oh I feel so soiled now.

I kind of prefer my food servers to be clothed. I don't know it just seems more sanitary, not to mention that carrying hot food in a bikini just seems dangerous.

Its also kind of awkward and uncomfortable to be paying money for food where your supposed to be ogling people.

Are you sure this isn't from the Onion? This seems so obviously written by someone with a masterful sense of irony.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm a big fan of saucy foods. I like my grilled dishes to be smothered in something gooey, thank you very much.

I also like my waitstaff to be clothed. No pubes in my food, please.

There are so many many many things wrong here. But I keep getting caught up on the saucy foods. That is pissing me off on so many levels I don't even know where to begin.

I think I will vomit if I have to hear one more sexist jerk justify his deep and abiding need to objectify women with "but women like to look at women too!" Yeah, that's a solid argument because who could possibly be a more credible authority on what women want or like than some dude?

Here, here, Liza! Pour on the sauce! If I am going out to a decent (I live in Southern Indiana - TGI Friday's and Applebee's are the "good" resturants), I want decent food. None of that "simply grilled" crap - hubby can make that at home. Bring on the Jack Daniel's smothered steak, baby!

I should clarify that I would like my saucy steak served by fully clothed waitstaff (gender not important)

Oh, my tiny tiny stomach and my tiny tiny pocketbook, what's a girl to do...oh look! A restraunt that has colorful mosaics and lights, and booby shaped salt and pepper shakers, and waitresses in bikinis! Wonderful! This is exactly what I was searching for--all my needs are met! And I can feel good because it's a feminist establishment, right?!

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It took me a long time to get through the article, the links to other feministing articles were really interesting!

And I’m not being P.C. by saying that men and women like to look at the woman’s form—it’s been going on since Michelangelo"

Wait, so David is actually a chick?

OMG, all these years I've been thinking that was a penis..!
How embarrassing!

Need it be pointed out that classical and Renaissance depictions of the nude were celebrations of the ideal human form and mathematic symmetry? Also, Michelangelo's depictions of women were horrific. He painted feminised depictions of men by adding breasts and eliminating the genitals. They were hideous.

This is coming from an artist and art lover. 90 lb strippers walking about in bikinis is a hell of a lot different than a marble statue celebrating the golden proportion.

Pengo, I don't believe there is anything in these places that is "women-friendly" - it's not catering to a sex, it is catering to a mind frame - a patriarchal, misogynistic, chauvinistic mind frame. That mind-frame has penetrated in our society through both genders. Those women that get a kick out of seeing other women degraded are called Female Chauvinistic Pigs. I can't recommend the book of the same name by Ariel Levy enough. Totally opened my eyes to some of my friends' antics. Sorry if it sounds like a marketing plug, it's not - i don't even own the book myself (yet, i'm working on it). I actually read it from the library. So go check it out at the library! And I second the sauces (uh, did someone say ranch? *sounds of running towards the kitchen). And my pocket book is usually bigger than my male counterparts, thank you. And all because of my single-self success, no parents helping me out. So THERE.

Where are my fake nails, spray on tan and hair extensions? Oh, and did I mention I've had "breast augmentation"??...

Umm, where does thid guy get his information on women? Sorry, dude, but not all of us are trying to slim down to fit into your damn bikini uniform. I know that when I go out to a tacky resteraunt, I want a saucy fried dish, and guess what? I can have it, because not only do I have money in my wallet, but I don't feel the need to bow to the weight standards you're setting!

This guy gets all of his women advice from Evan Marc Katz.

I think "David" has a nice bum and hot legs. Michaelangelo did better men.

Someone sign this guy up for a community college art history class please.

“I’m such a feminist. I love women and believe in them."

“We have a section that says ‘simply grilled,’ because women don’t like to eat sauces the way men do,� he said. “They’re watching their weight more often.�

There seems something inherantly wrong with claiming that you're a feminist and then making generalized statements that women are more likely to watch their weight. Also, his idea of feminism seems to be along the lines of, Feminism is an awesome thing because it gave women permission to serve food in my restauraunt wearing nothing but a bikini, and, well, that's swell because, like all guys and lesbians, I like to look at women's bodys. *Vomit*

“I’m such a feminist. I love women and believe in them."

“We have a section that says ‘simply grilled,’ because women don’t like to eat sauces the way men do,� he said. “They’re watching their weight more often.�

There seems something inherantly wrong with claiming that you're a feminist and then making generalized statements that women are more likely to watch their weight. Also, his idea of feminism seems to be along the lines of, Feminism is an awesome thing because it gave women permission to serve food in my restauraunt wearing nothing but a bikini, and, well, that's swell because, like all guys and lesbians, I like to look at women's bodys. *Vomit*

"Beautiful women use these attributes of theirs to get up in life, I don’t think these girls are feeling exploited."

he takes a lot of pride in what he's been doing for women--he's provided a place for them to get ahead...then maybe their pocketbooks won't be so small (there's also that $50 prize for waitresses that win the beauty contests), but they better keep those tummies small...I'm guessing if you start eating the sauces you'd be out of a job.
wow. what a guy! Thanks for your help!

What a lame-ass. I'd think it was funny when people who support shit like this nevertheless call themselves "feminists," except for the fact that it really pisses me off.

It's like, shut up already about the feminism. It doesn't make you look like less of an exploitative douche bag to call yourself a "feminist" for encouraging misogynism and objectification. Now you just look like a jack-ass whose insulting my intelligence.

Why is it always the sex object dipwads who ramble about empowerment? No one babbles about how being an underpaid, overworked secretary to a male boss is empowering.

Though I guess spending lots of money on your wedding is now empowering too... agghh fuck this place.

Though I guess spending lots of money on your wedding is now empowering too...

What's up with that? It seems like, more and more, popular culture keeps trying to get away with stupid shit like that by winking and saying, "Oh, but it's so empowering!"

Suck it, pop culture.

Hahahahaha "women have smaller stomachs"?? Bullshit. Women often choose to eat less, but not all women weigh less than all men, or do less exercise.

I am fairly slim, and my partner is VERY slim. We weigh about the same. I consistently eat about half again as much as he does. I would be an angry person if I lived on as little as him!

I consistently eat about half again as much as he does. I would be an angry person if I lived on as little as him!

Heh, yeah. I outweigh my boyfriend by probably 8kg or so. He's taller than I am, but I'm a significantly bigger person in both the sense that I'm carrying more weight and I have a larger frame. (He's kind of tall and willowy and I'm medium-height and stocky.) I can probably outmatch him in the weight room at the gym, too. And I've never been a shy eater.

I like big chunks of broiled animal (with or without sauce), but not when they're served with a side of misogyny.

Well, I'm afraid this perspective may rile a few, but honestly, if a woman willingly and cheerfully chooses to work in a business where she is serving food in a bikini, short shorts, mini-skirs, or whatever other hetero-male approved clothing, then that is her right. It's no different than your standard waitress wearing a low cut blouse or attractive make-up to help boost her tips a bit. Sex and beauty sell, period. A woman who is comfortable enough with her body and physical appearance to use it as a tool in a waitressing job is in actually sticking it to the hetero-male driven society, in that her looks are persuading men to leave a higher tip. Sexist? Of course. Conducive to the idea of unrealistic beauty? Possibly. But these girls are women as well, and they are simply using whatever tools they have readily available to them. If they are comfortable using their bodies to garner a little extra from smitten customers, more power to them.

Has anyone ever seen a short, thick girl outlift a tall, thin guy? If so, please give details.