Apologies for being a pedant but Scotland is in and part of the UK. Although there are some that would like independence from England it has not happened yet. Thanks, from a proudly Scottish feminist that loves feministing.

My bad...geography was always my worst subject.

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Sorry, but how is this relevant to feminism?

It's relevant to women.

Wouldn't this be important to feminism in that women are feminists, women might have used these tests, and women deserve better than faulty tests?

Wouldn't this be important to feminism in that women are feminists, women might have used these tests, and women deserve better than faulty tests?

Hmm, you'd think so, Jen.

"Apologies for being a pedant but Scotland is in and part of the UK. Although there are some that would like independence from England it has not happened yet. Thanks, from a proudly Scottish feminist that loves feministing."

Yeah, that made me happy. :)

And damn, that really is relevant. How entirely frightening.

"Apologies for being a pedant but Scotland is in and part of the UK. Although there are some that would like independence from England it has not happened yet. Thanks, from a proudly Scottish feminist that loves feministing."

Yeah, that made me happy. :)

And damn, that really is relevant. How entirely frightening.

Aye, I wish we weren't part of the UK though ;)

Not all women are feminist, and manufacturing mistakes have and always will occur.

This is, at heart, no different than faulty stereos being sold (albeit more serious in terms of consequences)

Well, yes. It is extremely more serious in terms of consequences, and those consequences are overwhelmingly going to be borne by women. Sure, not all women are feminists, but we manage to discuss things like veiling, high heels, and name changes that have to do with all women. Why not faulty pregnancy tests?

Quite frankly, given the politically charged options that women have when confronted with an unexpected pregnancy, I think that faulty pregnancy tests are indeed relevant to feminist concerns.

Really, Zaij, if you're not interested in this thread, you can just skip it.

If we're working off of the basis that "not all women are feminists" (absolutely true), and we can only discuss things relevant to feminists and feminists only, I think that we would have exceedingly little to talk about.

Agreed, but as I said this isn't a feminist issue. It's a womens issue and it could happen with any product.

Say, hypothetically, that there was a "do it yourself vasectomy kit" and there was a manufacturing error which made them faulty. That wouldn't be a Men's Rights Activist issue, it would just be a regrettable accident.

I disagree. I think that it's definitely a feminist issue to ask, firstly, HOW this happened, and also why it took so long for them figure it out, and how we can prevent it from happening in the future. Taking a pregnancy test is a BIG DEAL. Are there quality standards in place? Do they need to be raised? I think that these are all questions that feminists should ask.

Accidents like this happen all the time in manufacturing, and of course the company is going to look into how it went wrong and what they can do to prevent it from happening again - that goes without saying, or the image of the company goes down and hence profits. Obviously there are quality standards in place, there always are - things just fail sometimes through nobodies fault.

It took them so long to figure it out for the same reason bad food gets sorted out so quickly. It takes someone to get sick first and then report it.

This is a simple accident. They happen.

I don't think anyone was claiming anything malicious here.

Right, which is why it's not a feminist issue. No one is at fault, it's not discriminatory against women and it's not enforcing anti-female gender roles/stereotypes/whathave you.

Hence, it's not a feminist issue. Which is what I said at the start.

God forbid we want to talk about something that Zaij (arbiter of all things feminist) determines is not important!

Unplanned pregnancy *is* a feminist issue because pregnancy, abortion and women's healthcare in general are important to us. At the very least, it's important to get the word out that there is a pregnancy test recall - which may affect women there in a huge way.

Ahem, that should just read "Pregnancy", not just of the unplanned variety.