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"Gynoversity" not, in fact, attended by vaginas

With all the horrible news yesterday, I needed me some laughs. So thank goodness for Marc Rudov, who provided me with coffee-spitting humor this morning in his piece, "Is Your Son Safe at College?"

Rudov warns parents against sending their "actively heterosexual" sons to co-educational colleges--or as he so tenderly calls them: gynoversities.

America's institutes of higher learning are bastions of socialism and misandric feminism. Go to the Website of your son's university. Do a search on "rape." Pages and pages of information, right? Lots of help and programs for female students. Now, do a search on "false rape accusations." What do you find? Nothing, I'll bet. That's because he attends a gynoversity.

Rudov continues on his diatribe, making numbered lists for young men on how to survive around all that...vagina: "Never go out or have sex with a vindictive girl who blames everyone else for her problems."

Interesting. As you can imagine, I was skeptical of Rudov. That is, until I found out that he's an "internationally recognized author." I mean, how could you not trust a guy that wrote "Under the Clitoral Hood: How to Crank Her Engine Without Cash, Booze, or Jumper Cables." Nuff said.

Posted by Jessica - April 19, 2007, at 09:49AM | in Anti-Feminism , Humor

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[0+] Author Profile Page DDay said:

That's amazing! Who would have ever guessed that tripling the terms in the search phrase would drastically reduce the number of results!

[0+] Author Profile Page EG said:

Aw, it's so hard to be a straight white guy. I so feel his pain.

I read the whole article, including the comments, and I have to say that I actually feel stupider. Wow.

Funny, if it weren't so sad.

I mean, really?
If your son attends a co-ed college or university in the United States, and he is actively heterosexual, it is likely that a female student will falsely accuse him of rape.

It's likely that a female student will falsely accuse him of rape?

Maybe I'm using the wrong definition of "likely," but doesn't that mean "probability of happening is greater than probability of not happening"?

Our society doesn't value males?

You know what really sucks, though?

1. Women have the majority of civil, reproductive, marital, divorce, child-custody, and child-support rights in America
2. Never go out or have sex with a vindictive girl who blames everyone else for her problems
3. Never have unprotected sex
4. Never have sex with a girl whom you don't trust implicitly
5. Never have sex with a girl whose girlfriends you don't trust
6. Never have sex with a girl who is under the influence of alcohol or drugs
7. Never have sex with a girl if you are under the influence of alcohol or drugs.

Half of those are kind of true, just not for the reasons he posits. You shouldn't be having unprotected sex, or having sex with someone you don't trust implicitly, or with someone under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

*sigh*

[0+] Author Profile Page EG said:

Women have the majority of civil, reproductive, marital, divorce, child-custody, and child-support rights in America

Right. That's why standard of living drops precipitously for women post divorce, and rises for men (as my father never tired of pointing out before he and my mother got divorced).

And, indeed, as you say, Roy, by all means, men should not have unprotected sex, they should not have sex with a drunken or stoned woman, they should not have sex when they themselves are drunk and stoned. And sure, it's probably not a bad idea to make sure you trust the person you're sleeping with. But not because it's "likely" that you'll be accused of rape. Because it's the responsible thing to do.

[0+] Author Profile Page malotkemeslin said:

BTW, here are his credentials via amazon.com

Marc Rudov is an investment banker and business consultant residing in Silicon Valley (Bay Area), California. Although formally educated in engineering and business, he possesses a vast informal education in relationships with women.

[0+] Author Profile Page malotkemeslin said:

BTW, here are his credentials via amazon.com

Marc Rudov is an investment banker and business consultant residing in Silicon Valley (Bay Area), California. Although formally educated in engineering and business, he possesses a vast informal education in relationships with women.

[0+] Author Profile Page Mipa said:

Jessica,
I admire your sense of humour so early in the morning - I'm having trouble finding this funny. Ridiculous, yes. Moronic? Of course. Grotesque - yeah probably that too. Everything about it is just so wrong. Seriously - who dates a guy like this?? An expert on relationships with women?? Please.

I am unable to believe my eyes. Wow.

Well, even though this article is wrong on so many levels, at least there are a few gems of good advice.

3. Never have unprotected sex
4. Never have sex with a girl whom you don't trust implicitly
5. Never have sex with a girl whose girlfriends you don't trust
6. Never have sex with a girl who is under the influence of alcohol or drugs
7. Never have sex with a girl if you are under the influence of alcohol or drugs.

By following these little rules, men can lessen their chances of a false rape accusation. But they can also lessen their chances of ACTUALLY RAPING SOMEONE. So in a way, we all win.

Thanks, Rudov.

[0+] Author Profile Page redwards said:

it'd be nice if they'd actually look at it that way, wouldn't it evil olive...

Wow. I clicked on the link and just figured it was a brilliant parody of anti-feminism, but he's serious! That actually makes it more hilarious. (Or so incredibly depressing that I need to deny it in order to find the strength to go on...Yeah, I'm going with hilarious.)

[0+] Author Profile Page audrey said:

But what if my son is an unactive heterosexual male? Where's the advice for him? He might be left out from his peers for not being falsely accused.

Seriously though, my favorite part is:
"Shame: When she gets drunk or stoned, or both, and fornicates with a guy she'd prefer not to be with, she awakens the next day feeling ashamed. Instead of blaming herself, learning a lesson, and moving forward with her life, she conveniently accuses the man of rape." That sounds a lot like rape to me. Generally people don't willing "fornicate" with guys we don't want to be with. Also, accusing someone of rape is always so convient for the victim.

[0+] Author Profile Page Grandjester said:

Is this really happening with frequency? I made some poor choices in college (violated rules #6 & 7) but never ran into anything like this fellow describes. Were the 80's such a different time?

This is beyond hilarious btw "...he possesses a vast informal education in relationships with women." Um, no. I think not.

[0+] Author Profile Page hautedonna said:

Well I do have to give some credit to Rudov for at least giving some advice to guys to avoid false rape accusations, even if they are based on paranoia and personal bitterness. It gives some faux-credibility to the whole thing. One of the reasons I'll never believe that false accusations occur at anywhere near the frequency that the MRAs claim they do, and the general public believes they do, is that males are rarely, if ever, warned to use caution to avoid them. Women are constantly admonished to be safe and avoid certain situations because of the prevalence of rape. Sure, it's bullshit blaming the victim and it doesn't work anyway but at least it's an acknowledgement that it happens a lot. When a rape gets media attention, you can bet that more than a few people will weigh in about what she should or shouldn't have done to protect herself. Yet I did not see one pundit or commentator suggest that maybe hiring a strange woman to strip at an off-campus party, where alcohol flowed freely, was not such a great idea. Where was Bill O'Reilly, who suggested that a young woman who was raped and murdered was sort of, you know, asking for it by wearing skimpy attire and being out late at night? Where was Kathleen Parker, who is always ready to wag a finger at female victims? Wingnuts really don't think too highly of men at all, do they?

[0+] Author Profile Page Cindermoth said:

Awww... poor, poor sexually active heterosexual men. Coo, coo. Poor things. What kind of world is it where you can fuck women - oops, I mean [i]girls[/i] - who're too drunk to say no, and someone out there will believe them if they claim rape? There, there, sexually active heterosexual men, it wasn't your fault. Those nasty old women - girls! - shouldn't have thrown themselves onto your erect penises in the first place.

Talk like this always reminds me of Margaret Cho's notion that really everyone is scared of this 'pussy cyclone' that is going to arise when women are let loose to be sexually free and consume everything in it's path - vagina dentata - we've gone from dentata to Dyson.

It also reminds me The Simpsons when Lisa is fantasizing about being in one of the Seven Sisters colleges and the field hockey player says: "Come to Smith and EXPLORE!"

[0+] Author Profile Page Cindermoth said:

Eep. Darned failed formatting.

Well, I have to give him this. At least, for once, we have an article telling MEN to curtail their lifestyles, rather than putting the impetus on women. Like hautedonna said, he's doing it for the wrong reasons -- but, hey, putting the responsibility on men, even if you're only doing it sarcastically, is a step in the right direction.

Related: I wanna go to gynoversity! Where is it??

[0+] Author Profile Page m to tha said:

i seriously thought this was a joke a la the onion...

You better believe it, Andy. Like a Dyson, women never lose suction.

Men's News Daily is like the Andy Kaufman for the 21st century, except it isn't in on its own joke.

[0+] Author Profile Page SDstuck said:

Here is a public service message for any women living in California.

There are pictures of this guy on his website,so you know when to run screaming.
http://themansnononsenseguidetowomen.com/index.html

[0+] Author Profile Page Brie said:

Wow, what a privleged, entitled morong. Asshat.

I wanna go to a gynoversity! Where do I sign up?

[0+] Author Profile Page Nic said:

Dude, if my vagina is attending gynoversity without my knowledge, I'm gonna be mightily irritated.

Plus, where would they send the bill?

Nic:

The penis that owns your vagina, clearly. Oh, silly little females, so stupid when not deviously making false rape accusations!

/snark

How suprising, Marc Rudov is using one highly publicized case to make unsupported generalizations. I'd like to know where he gets all of his expertise---mainly just how many times has this guy been divorced?

Maybe someone should tell him that "she's just not into you" and to stop blaming women for recognizing him as the asshat (love that word!) that he is.

I used to think that I'd be brave enough to report a rape, were I raped. Now I feel like people will find out that I'm a feminist and accuse me of false allegations. Honestly, I don't know what I'd do anymore.

Also:

"beste said,

I see that asshole Jessica 'I like to flaunt my boobies and complain when people notice' Valenti has singled out your article at her shitty little blog feministing."

...Ann? Is that you?

Unfortunately, ghostorchid, pretty much any woman who isn't white, Christian and a virgin when they're raped is going to be accused of false allegations by SOME asshole. Like this guy, right here.

In cases like these, what always scares me most is not the fact that guys who write this kind of shit exist, but that there's enough of market for it to get it published.

It's been said, but I want to add my voice. The "rules" he laughingly lays out to protect "your son" from all us hateful womens are actually pretty good (3-7). Of course, since he only mentions them to show how hard it is for men to get any with these rules, it's clear he doesn't think anyone should be following them. Now, sex under the influence ain't all bad, but it's probably a good idea to be smart about it. In fact, "your son" wouldn't have to be smart about sex with women if it weren't for women in the first place.

Jessica your own book is ready for sale and no longer on pre-order!!!

How come there's no front page post on this? Or did I miss it? Hold on let me check...

[0+] Author Profile Page Panic said:

Because our society doesn't value males
Ah ha ha ha ha ha. Best. Laugh. EVER.

Starting to worry, now?
Only about his comma abuse. :|

Besides everything everyone else has said:

Admittedly, this is totally anecdotal, but I've spent much of the past semester arguing with a neo-con professor about Machiavelli (his preferred translation of The Prince is by Harvey Mansfield. Yes, that Mansfield). NO pity for these "higher education is monopolized by them lie-berals" people. None whatsoever.

[0+] Author Profile Page kpsisu said:

oldie but goodie:
if a woman is drunk, don't rape her.
if a woman is walking alone at night, don't rape her.
if a woman is drugged, don't rape her.
if a woman is unconscious, don't rape her.
if a woman is wearing a short skirt, don't rape her.
if a woman is jogging in a park at 5 a.m., don't rape her.
if a woman looks like your ex-girlfriend you are still hung up on, don't rape her.
if a woman is asleep in her bed, don't rape her.
if a woman is asleep in your bed, don't rape her.
if a woman is in a coma, don't rape her.
if a woman is doing her laundry, don't hate her.
if a woman changes her mind in the middle of or about a particular activity, don't rape her.
if a woman has repeatedly refused a particular activity, don't rape her.
If a woman is not yet a woman but a child, don't rape her.
If your girlfriend or wife is not in the mood, don't rape her.
If your step-daughter is watching tv, don't rape her.
If you break into a house and find a woman there, don't rape her.
If your friend thinks it's ok to rape someone, tell him it's not, and that he's not your friend.
If your 'friend' tells you he raped someone, report him to the police.
If your frat brother or another guy at a party tells you there's an unconscious/drunk woman upstairs and it's your turn, don't rape her, call the police and tell the guy he is a rapist.

[0+] Author Profile Page Panic said:

And the comments section is even funnier!

I would say youre assesment is about accurate….
Our universitys are in a gynocentriclly hysterical crisis to find more rapists

Something tells me our friend here has never been on campus.

This was my favorite comment:

"i just caught myself last week in a moment of weakness. at the last second, i asked her if she would vote for hillary. when she answered “of course�, i wished her gods speed and called the date off [. . .] i tell ya, i have to pay more attention to detail. that was close."

You know, this idiot's article reminds me why I haven't had sex yet at all. Not because I'm afraid of false rape accusations, but because people like him have set the parameters for hookups.

The truth is that that most women I know "lost their virginity" when they were under the influence of something--alcohol, drugs, depression, guilt, peer pressure, whatever--and while not all of those scenarios necessarily represent prosecutable rape, all of them are close enough to the concept to make me nervous.

The cardinal rule for any of the wannabe fratboys targeted by this moron's article should be: Never have sex with a woman if you think she'll later regret it. Period. Not because you might be accused of rape--though if she was drunk or stoned and you took advantage of the fact, you are a rapist and deserve to be prosecuted for it--but because it's a crummy and irresponsible thing to do.

No unfair influence. No unfair power differential. Full, meaningful consent she won't regret later, or no sex at all. Period. That's my advice for young heterosexual men, and that's the ethic I live by.


Cheers,

TH

a gynocentriclly hysterical crisis


HAHAHAHAHA. For some reason, that very phrase is just so hilarious, and apropos for this stuff, to me.

[0+] Author Profile Page Wildstarryskies said:

Hi Jess, this is my first time commenting here, since I've read this for months. Love ya, girl. P.S. Althouse SUXX.

Anyway, I just had to point this out, as others have.. that those common sense rules..

# Never go out or have sex with a vindictive girl who blames everyone else for her problems
# Never have unprotected sex
# Never have sex with a girl whom you don't trust implicitly
# Never have sex with a girl whose girlfriends you don't trust
# Never have sex with a girl who is under the influence of alcohol or drugs
# Never have sex with a girl if you are under the influence of alcohol or drugs.

Well. DUH. Sad he had to cast it in such a misgynostic version, but we would ALL be better off if everybody followed those rules..

[0+] Author Profile Page Wildstarryskies said:

Shorter Rule:
Don't rape women.

To reflect my concern about this nonsense, I have contacted athletic directors, football coaches, VPs of student affairs, presidents, and high-level directors of fraternity organizations at major universities around the USA. Responses? Zero. These execs are hiding under their desks -- afraid of feminism, afraid of the misandric media.

Or they don't want to waste their valuable time talking to some loser MRA pseudo-journalist. Just sayin'.

It's funny because some of the things he says on his website are downright... well, feminist:

From Chapter 4: Are We Really from Different Planets?
My answer is NO; we are from the same planet: Earth! In fact, I believe men and women have few inherent differences. Both genders want to love and be loved, need and be needed, admire and be admired, respect and be respected, help and be helped, appreciate and be appreciated, communicate and be heard, protect and be protected, earn and share. We have the drive to achieve, procreate, and leave our legacies. We are, in fact, virtually the same beings with different plumbing.

Then he goes on to talk about how the biggest obstacle in hetro relationships is "socialized programming... that drives gender-based behavior"

This guy is like Jekyll and Hyde.

http://themansnononsenseguidetowomen.com/page2.html

[0+] Author Profile Page candyslug said:

you know he's right, there needs to be an equal amount of info for victims of a false accusation.
after all, 1 in 3 men will be falsely accused of rape in their lifetime. in some countries a false accusation occurs every 60 seconds! and don't even get me started on the horror of a gang-false accusation, or post-false accusation stress disorder.

(end sarcasm)

this guy's article made me want to barf AND cry all at once.

I have a hilariously awesome idea.

All the men who are worried about false rape accusations should go on a sex strike. No more sex until women stop accusing men of rape. See how long it takes us to break down and beg for it! :0)

The one flaw in this plan, of course, is that once these guys stop having sex, probably most rapes WILL stop... as will most rape reports. And then they'll start over again.

But the temporary reprieve would be AWESOME.

[0+] Author Profile Page kpsisu said:

tlf- excellent idea. everyone in agreement, say aye!

[0+] Author Profile Page DataShade said:
Half of those are kind of true, just not for the reasons he posits. You shouldn't be having unprotected sex, or having sex with someone you don't trust implicitly, or with someone under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

*sigh*


Posted by: roymacIII | April 19, 2007 10:54 AM

Exactly!

Almost all the ones that AREN'T true BECOME true if you simply make it gender-neutral. Don't have sex on the first date, don't have sex if one of you is high, don't have unprotected sex are no-brainers. Not dating vindictive/delusional people is equally good advice for women as it is for men, and using caution when in an intimate relationship with someone whose friends all hate you is certainly prudent.


Also: I'm surprised the article didn't come rightout and say it, but make sure to tell your sons don't let them steal your precious bodily fluids.

"At least, for once, we have an article telling MEN to curtail their lifestyles, rather than putting the impetus on women."

Good point.

"Full, meaningful consent she won't regret later, or no sex at all. Period. That's my advice for young heterosexual men, and that's the ethic I live by."

Change the "she" to "she or he" and it's good advice for everyone of any gender and any sexual orientation. :)

Sad that the tone was so anti-woman, because there's a lot of good advice buried in there, like don't have sex with a woman when you are drunk or when she is drunk. I'm ALL for stopping date rape - but this lilly-livered pansy doesn't seem to understand that having sex with a woman who cannot consent IS rape, not a false accusation thereof.

I also like the idea of not having sex with people whom you don't trust or how don't have your best interests at heart, because that would eliminate a lot of the problems with custody battles.

(I also don't think that people who would disagree on what to do if faced with an unplanned pregnancy should have sex with each other. As the saying goes, "Just say no to sex with pro-lifers.")

Wow.

Like others here I couldn't help but notice he had half way decent advice.

Too bad it was buried in a pile of shit so deep you almost missed it. :(

Man, how did I make it through four years of college without being falsely accused even once?

And since I have little cash, no booze and no jumper cables, I'm so going to order this insightful fellow's book.

Still, I should be grateful. I really needed a good laugh today, and that twit--and the takedowns here--have helped. Thanks.

Since Mr. Rudov lives in a county I am very familiar with, assuming he's the SAME Marc Rudov, I can tell you why this guy is bitter. Family law cases are public records and can be researched by anyone. Information is often available online using the website of the county where the action was filed. The url I listed is for Santa Clara County, California.

He has only one divorce listed (the two dissolution cases listed means they both filed Petitions for divorce at about the same time, but the parties are the same so only one divorce). But he also had a lovely domestic violence case (request for domestic violence restraining order) filed against him by his former spouse. Doesn't look like a restraining order actually issued, though.

Ooops! I have to take that back. A CLETS Restraining Order WAS issued on 6/8/05.

[0+] Author Profile Page jacquih2 said:

ok, so I didn't see the humor in this article at all. I couldn't even laugh at it's stupidity or ridiculousness, BUT- what made it even worse were the comments in response to the article. The number of men who agree or who say "spot on" to this filth is scary. It is sad that the media has to make it seem that a majority of rape is "false" because that is just not even close to the case. NOT EVEN CLOSE. But, I am preaching to the choir now, aren't I?

Eurgh. How about "Being a Goddamn Adult: How Stop Obsessing About Panty Hamster Enough to Remember There's a Person Attached?" Pardon the "panty hamster." You know they wouldn't let me say "vagina."

This concept of "scoring" at any cost makes me wish I were a violent person, or at least, a louder one.

It's not even about sex, it's about the manhood, about the expectation that sex, for men, under any heterosexual circumstances, is an accomplishment and for women, (in any heterosexual situation) is a defeat only sets up a situation where the woman becomes a prop to be "made love to" rather than a person to "make love with."

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