to debunk the stereotype that Asian men are not sexy

???

I think it's important to remain locally active and proud of your heritage, but also important to willingly maintain public dialogue across cultural lines. Diversity is an asset that needs to be embraced, not a quota to be met or an unpleasantness to be ignored. We are made better by our own diversity, as well as that diversity of others. The cooperation that ideally results is its own reward.

Asian men are as close to white men as you can get, what has this site come to?

"Let's be nice to men"

What's next? Honouring white men for the work they do?

You will lose my support of your site if this ever happens!

"Asian American men and to break stereotypes (especially sexual) about Asian American men."

It's not very nice to say asian guys have small penis's if that is what you mean.

White men however perfectly ok! It is a huge porn industry! That I am sure eveyone will deny ever seeing! Spring Tohmas or mdfn? blacks on blondes? "Cuckolding"

Perfectly ok to have steriotypes about white men or black men!

So as long as you are a minoritey or homosexual feminists will support you and fight against your steriotypes! If you are white you are the problem?

I guess?

hujo,

are you okay? no one's saying it's okay to set up sexual stereotypes of white men. i'm assuming you've read some of the concurrent discussions about how a central tenet of feminism to many of the men and women on this site is the breaking down of oppressive gender expectations for all people.

i mean, dang, on another thread, sarah is saying:

feminism as helping men be themselves, rather than having to play masculine stereotypes--because it works both ways.

further, this is a key example of one of the editors of this site talking about issues affecting men... talking about men doing things for men.

and yet you take issue with it. i. just. don't. get. it.

oh, yeah, and not all sexual stereotypes have to do with penis size.

and, cathy mac, if you aren't an alias of some mra or similarly discursive punk, i think i speak for the editors of this site when i say it'd be just fine if your type of support went away.

Actually it seems that cathy mac is hujo. You gotsta love seeing everyone's IP address. Dude, that's just lame.

finally, sami, sounds like it was a great time... and kudos to ya boy...

i think, though, when breaking it down, it's important to recognize that hyphen isn't just some pop culture thing thing where their pageant is going to be all about appearance and whatnot.

there are, as we've seen, spaces like hyphen's male pageant for women, too (like the real hot 100)... but they're all from a certain space.

neither the real hot 100 nor the mr. hyphen pageant are as 'visible' as, say miss chinatown or mr universe or miss america or calvin klein ads...

also, i agree that there should be more coalition building for sure (i mean, you don't have to go far to see disadvantaged people disparaging other disadvantaged people), but...

there's a level to which it is important to build your heritage and understand where you come from (hujo, i think this is even true for white men, just so's ya knows) so that when we do come together, we can all better raise each other up and have better understandings of and accountability for what baggage we bring to the table.

I was outed already!

Sheesh

Good post puck,

I was just bugging, (i do start good convos's no?) I don't think the owner wants me to kick it here no more, so peace.

You should drop buy my bb sometime.

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“feminism as helping men be themselves, rather than having to play masculine stereotypes--because it works both ways.�

Why is masculine a negative thing? Certain aspects of our social codes or old attitudes about roles is what it is, for men and women. Many social groups combat these things humanism masculism! “Whiney white man� or “whiney� is the typical insult for the mra.
I have seen it here, said about me, this is using ridged masculinity as a weapon, or Jane Fonda calling liberated men “vagina friendly men�. How can feminism or women define what is negative or positive masculinity without it being a forced definition for men?

There's nothing wrong with being masculine, hujo. I happen to be a proud Y-chromo myself.

But what IS masculine? The problem here lies in the expectations of behavior that accompany traditional gender roles. Being a man does not necessarily have to equate being inarticulate and prone to inappropriate sexual behavior. Patriarchy is just as bad for male self-expression as it is for women. Women, however, end up on the receiving end of it more.

All I'm saying is, feminism isn't about women trying to reverse the power structure--except maybe Twisty. It's simply about trying to level the playing field. Once women have to stop pretending to be something they're not, we as men will be free to to so as well. Embracing feminism is mutually beneficial.

And if equality means we can no longer justify some of the bad behavior we indulge in, then it is incumbent upon us as human beings to abandon that behavior.

well said

Right but the gay hating, abstinence promoting, and abortion banning corrupt fundamentalists conservative people in power are men and women.

The objectifiers that sell us our insecurity thru media, the marketers, journalists, designers, consist of both men and women.

The everyday people that surround us and perpetuate negative stereotypes or codes of conduct are both men and women.

So how is it only straight white men and the “patriarchy� that are to blame?

The word patriarchy does not apply to the US or Canadian system.