One does wonder how pictures ever get hung in TV land. After all, women are too stupid to do anything but fuck and giggle and men are incapable of caring about domestic things like hanging pictures.
Obviously the pictures get hung by Schneider. The creepy fix-it guy that lives in the neighborhood. He does it in between making sure the windows are clean and leering at the buxom teen daughters.
I cannot *believe* any ad agency gave this one a "go" in this day and age. I really, really hope that they at least have a "Because your husband uses the car too" version out there somewhere. Hey, if you're going to imply incompetance, let's spread it around, eh?
Yup, it was humorous as a situation -- I'm sure there are people out there who _can't_ drill a hole in the wall -- but to state that incompetance in that area implies incompetance in other areas is ludicrous. And in this case, sexist. (As a woman who CAN use a drill properly, I am doubly annoyed.)
And before anyone comments, yes, I find the ads that show men unable to take care of laundry, cooking, children, etc., both humorous AND sexist at the same time. They usually don't imply that the man in question is incompetant in other ways, though!!
They do have a "female version," which is just as bad. It's basically a gross boyfriend sitting at the breakfast table scratching himself and being boorish, and it says "because you know you'll move out someday" or something.
Sigh. Men and their wacky inability to conform to prudish domestic standards! I agree, it's just as bad.
The commercial was insulting, but by far, what really got me worked into a lather of incoherent, spluttering rage was the User Comments beneath it. If I -ever- have to ask myself why I'm a feminist, it's guys like the ones who commented on that site about the commercial that really cement my reasoning why.
Tellingly, most of the sidebar for that site is for cheap dating services. I wonder why...I can't imagine Mr. Masturbated-Twice-To-A-T.V.-Commercial not being able to get laid without technological assistance.
Need I comment on the irony of someone saying we ignore stereotypes of men in a comments section where many feminists complain about negative stereotypes of men?
I may be considered an uneducated idiot because I didn't get my Women's Studies degree at Oberlin but the only irony I see is women telling me to take a joke then getting in uproar over a joking comercial.
Ugh. I'm with you on the comments, which managed to be both sexist *and* racist all at once. They infuriated me. What a of assholes. Thank you for reminding me why I'm a feminist.
Sorry, Jackie, but you can't be racist against women. You are simply dragging in an unrelated subject. If the woman was black you might have a point.
I should have addressed this earlier:
"And before anyone comments, yes, I find the ads that show men unable to take care of laundry, cooking, children, etc., both humorous AND sexist at the same time. They usually don't imply that the man in question is incompetent in other ways, though!!"
Commercials that show how men are incompetent in those areas ARE implying that they are just "generally" incompetent.
Carl's Jr. slogan: "Without us some guys would starve." Where is your uproar about that? Can't guys cook for themselves? Wait, none of you feminists (people for equality) want to take up that cause do ya?
Well, just look at it this way. For equality's sake some commercials make fun of men and some make fun of women. Either keep both or abolish both. That's theoretically what feminism is campaigning for, correct?
Or we can all just agree that there're plenty of things in the world that we should be fighting together against, things that are more important than a few stupid commercials. Instead of getting our hairs up on end against one another about those, should we not, instead tackle the sentiment and ideas -behind- the commercials?
(And I've never seen those Carl's Jr. commercials, probably because there aren't any Carl's Jr.'s anywhere near where I live in NH.)
Ryan, just because you think feminists need to worry about men before women doesn't mean we have to agree. For what it's worth, I don't like those commercials either. However, the implication is usually that men are incompetent at shit work like housework so women have to take over while men do what they are good at, which is the fun stuff.
Notice how men are always portrayed as incompetent in the kitchen (boring, everyday housework) while they are pros at the BBQ pit (occasional, party time housework).
Amanda- where did I say that feminists should think of men before women? NO WHERE! You are trying to put words in my mouth. I'm saying that as a feminist you should think of men TOO; ALSO; EQUALLY AS MUCH. But still, where is your outcry against negative male imagery? All you are giving is lip service. "Oh I don't like those commercials any more than you do" but then where is your action to back it up? I certainly don't see you sticking anything of that sort on your home page. Everything there is "A man badmouthed a woman" or "This man thinks women are bad at this" or "this commercial is degenerating to women." That's not feminism, that's sexism.
Read this back to yourself:
"Notice how men are always portrayed as incompetent in the kitchen (boring, everyday housework) while they are pros at the BBQ pit (occasional, party time housework)."
Cooking provides the same level of enjoyment in any spot you do it, Amanda. Outdoors or indoors it all depends on what you make of it. And if it was the woman in front of the BBQ I'm sure you'd complain that she was the one having to cook at all; cooking being a typical stay-at-home-oppressed-woman's job.
"However, the implication is usually that men are incompetent at shit work like housework so women have to take over..."
Shit work, eh? Showing that men are usually incompetent at those "shit jobs" is as sexist as anything. Also, what about the women? You devalue their work by calling what they do shit.
"...while men do what they are good at, which is the fun stuff."
Are you kidding me right? No one could be this blatantly narrow unless it was on purpose. Men are good at the fun stuff, eh? Working on cars is a lot of fun? Fixing plumbing and light switches are fun too right? Taking out the garbage, cleaning out the rain gutters, mowing the lawn, washing the car... all fun, right?
Keep streeeeetching, Ryan. One day you might convince one or two people that's it just as fun to have the responsibility of getting dinner on the table by 6:00 every night after work for little or no thanks and instead have everyone complain, "We ate this last week," and getting wildly praised for tossing steaks on a grill once a month by people who are hovering over you and bringing you beer.
That's the enviroment I grew up in as did everyone else I know. But women's work is Oh So Fun.
No one said women's work was, "Oh So Fun." This is, yet again, a lame attempt to put words in my mouth. Work of any sort is WHAT YOU MAKE OF IT. Whether you get satisfaction out of it or not is entirely on your shoulders.
Topics on your homepage:
Vulva madness
Dumbest move ever (sexual harassment against women)
The Thong-O-Mat
Feministing’s comment policy
So Much for Multiculturalism!
The Legitimacy Of An Abuse (against women)
Bush declared National Sanctity of Human Life Day (pro-choice rant)
Feel like getting pissed? (at commercials)
Pennsylvania women take on Chastity Awareness Week (women against chastity)
Teens abstain from birth control, not sex (the pill not the condom)
Feministing hearts Boxer
Language law on women needs to go
“Comfort women” fund to end in 2007
Timing is everything?
So apparently we can’t drive either
The Slippery Slope of Re-framing Reproductive Rights
Sexual Harassment in the Royal Air Force (against women)
What We Do Now
Happy Birthday to Roe...
Post-Roe Postcard
Summers apologizes (for putting down women)
Four more years. Shit.
Nothing like a little sex talk
23 topics (I may have missed a couple)
20 topics on women/women's rights/vagina's/etc
2 unrelated
1 shows any benefit to men ( Language law on women needs to go)
>12 openly male-bash
1 openly female-bash (Timing is everything?)
Is that all you are going to throw me? One topic showing men in good light compared to 22 others? I can count more than half (>12) of the articles as specifically male bashing/blaming. I'll give you credit though... you did put up *one* article showing women in less that favorable light (the one about women baring children younger rather than waiting) but that's it. That is the cross section of your homepage. That is a lot of male bashing, Amanda. Those couple token articles don't take away from the fact that this site is focused on bashing men to empower women.
"One day you might convince one or two people that's it just as fun to have the responsibility of getting dinner on the table by 6:00 every night after work for little or no thanks and instead have everyone complain"
How about you streeeeetch it a little further? What about the husbands and fathers, Amanda? Do they not go to work every day? Are they not working hard enough for you? Are you going to tell me that their jobs are "all fun" and no work? To compare something as trivial as cooking one meal during the evening (cereal for breakfast, sandwich for lunch) to someone's job (that they will work at for the next 40-50 years) is a joke. So to do the job as well as the domestic responsibilities I listed above deserves some respect. They deserve better than to be called lazy for working their asses off each day then *not* wanting to work some more when they get home. They deserve the respect you give to a man that has 2 jobs because that is exactly what you "feminists" are giving to him.
You know, without that last line at the end, that commercial *would* have been pretty funny.
Without that last line, and the spattering of lewd, bawdy, and racist (yes, Ryan, there is a racist comment, if you scroll down a bit) remarks underneath.
In fact, I'm more upset about the reaction of those people than the actual ad.
I can see how it definitely pushes the bounds, but if I had to pick a commercial to complain about, I'd go for the "how many straws can this woman put in her mouth?" people.
though i do find your breakdown interesting in that it assumes that any post about women is male bashing. tells me more about you than about my website.
I won't make the list again because I'm sure you can read them yourself. It isn't that any post about women is male bashing its the posts about MEN are. The ones about women are all innocuous and I could care less, but the repeated bashing of males for everything that they do is ridiculous. If you are posting for the betterment and encouragement of women that just FINE. I wouldn't be here if that is what this was about. It's when you drag all men down touting that women are superior and men are all sexists that I have to come here.
Tommy, I don't type when I'm angry or frustrated because as you can see because I'm not calling these girls names except maybe sexist and I'm not calling you a mangina for trying to help them. Your insults undermine THEIR argument. So, tommy boy, to recap; you have no arguments, facts or even an opinion so... maybe you go back to jerking your dick because that's all you are good for.
Ryan, I feel the veins popping out of your head in your writing...deep breaths. Now, I've been reading you're comments, on multiple topics here, and as far as I can see you bring no argument to the table. You spout off about hating women's studies programs, and the oppressed father(WTF?), working a job isn't the same as preparing meals...blah blah biggedy blah.
Trust me, if I could sit around jerking my dick all day...I would. You however browse and post all day to a blog with an insane fear of what you desire the most...a woman.
A mangina is a programed man, Jessica. Programmed that women need all the help and men need none. Tommy will never believe that women can do wrong or men can do enough good to make up for the 'thousands of years of oppression' you have faced.
I concede, Tommy, that you are right. I am afraid of women. I am so very afraid I can only communcate with them through the internet so they won't hurt me or make fun of my acne covered face. And, I masterbate all day, especially when I read feministing.com. Those women that I do have in my life are locked in the basement as well. Also I'm a polygamist, which means I have more than one woman locked in the basement. What can I say, I like the way I am.
Tommy, you don't really think I'm the only Ryan here do you? Don't answer that; it's rhetorical.
Didn't say men don't work or that it isn't unpleasant. Just said they had to do less unpleasant work around the house. Occassionally fixing something broken isn't the same as constantly cleaning up.
Do you think women don't work, do you really? I work 40 hours a week, same as my man. I would like to make what he does for the same amount. As for the housework, well, in my house he does his half, which I guess make you think he's whipped. But he's really just not an asshole is all.
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Jesus Christ, that's bad. Of course, we can anticipate Voxper claiming that all we do on this site is disparage men's abilities to do common chores.
Man that was funny. I have seen that happen too many times.
hee hee...
...or that we have nothing better to worry about than silly commercials.
One does wonder how pictures ever get hung in TV land. After all, women are too stupid to do anything but fuck and giggle and men are incapable of caring about domestic things like hanging pictures.
Obviously the pictures get hung by Schneider. The creepy fix-it guy that lives in the neighborhood. He does it in between making sure the windows are clean and leering at the buxom teen daughters.
Any contact information for these assholes?
I cannot *believe* any ad agency gave this one a "go" in this day and age. I really, really hope that they at least have a "Because your husband uses the car too" version out there somewhere. Hey, if you're going to imply incompetance, let's spread it around, eh?
Yup, it was humorous as a situation -- I'm sure there are people out there who _can't_ drill a hole in the wall -- but to state that incompetance in that area implies incompetance in other areas is ludicrous. And in this case, sexist. (As a woman who CAN use a drill properly, I am doubly annoyed.)
And before anyone comments, yes, I find the ads that show men unable to take care of laundry, cooking, children, etc., both humorous AND sexist at the same time. They usually don't imply that the man in question is incompetant in other ways, though!!
They do have a "female version," which is just as bad. It's basically a gross boyfriend sitting at the breakfast table scratching himself and being boorish, and it says "because you know you'll move out someday" or something.
Sigh. Men and their wacky inability to conform to prudish domestic standards! I agree, it's just as bad.
The commercial was insulting, but by far, what really got me worked into a lather of incoherent, spluttering rage was the User Comments beneath it. If I -ever- have to ask myself why I'm a feminist, it's guys like the ones who commented on that site about the commercial that really cement my reasoning why.
Tellingly, most of the sidebar for that site is for cheap dating services. I wonder why...I can't imagine Mr. Masturbated-Twice-To-A-T.V.-Commercial not being able to get laid without technological assistance.
You people need to get a grip - have a sense of humor. Jeez.
Need I comment on the irony of someone saying we ignore stereotypes of men in a comments section where many feminists complain about negative stereotypes of men?
I may be considered an uneducated idiot because I didn't get my Women's Studies degree at Oberlin but the only irony I see is women telling me to take a joke then getting in uproar over a joking comercial.
Ugh. I'm with you on the comments, which managed to be both sexist *and* racist all at once. They infuriated me. What a of assholes. Thank you for reminding me why I'm a feminist.
Sorry, Jackie, but you can't be racist against women. You are simply dragging in an unrelated subject. If the woman was black you might have a point.
I should have addressed this earlier:
"And before anyone comments, yes, I find the ads that show men unable to take care of laundry, cooking, children, etc., both humorous AND sexist at the same time. They usually don't imply that the man in question is incompetent in other ways, though!!"
Commercials that show how men are incompetent in those areas ARE implying that they are just "generally" incompetent.
Carl's Jr. slogan: "Without us some guys would starve." Where is your uproar about that? Can't guys cook for themselves? Wait, none of you feminists (people for equality) want to take up that cause do ya?
Well, just look at it this way. For equality's sake some commercials make fun of men and some make fun of women. Either keep both or abolish both. That's theoretically what feminism is campaigning for, correct?
Or we can all just agree that there're plenty of things in the world that we should be fighting together against, things that are more important than a few stupid commercials. Instead of getting our hairs up on end against one another about those, should we not, instead tackle the sentiment and ideas -behind- the commercials?
(And I've never seen those Carl's Jr. commercials, probably because there aren't any Carl's Jr.'s anywhere near where I live in NH.)
Ryan, just because you think feminists need to worry about men before women doesn't mean we have to agree. For what it's worth, I don't like those commercials either. However, the implication is usually that men are incompetent at shit work like housework so women have to take over while men do what they are good at, which is the fun stuff.
Notice how men are always portrayed as incompetent in the kitchen (boring, everyday housework) while they are pros at the BBQ pit (occasional, party time housework).
Amanda- where did I say that feminists should think of men before women? NO WHERE! You are trying to put words in my mouth. I'm saying that as a feminist you should think of men TOO; ALSO; EQUALLY AS MUCH. But still, where is your outcry against negative male imagery? All you are giving is lip service. "Oh I don't like those commercials any more than you do" but then where is your action to back it up? I certainly don't see you sticking anything of that sort on your home page. Everything there is "A man badmouthed a woman" or "This man thinks women are bad at this" or "this commercial is degenerating to women." That's not feminism, that's sexism.
Read this back to yourself:
"Notice how men are always portrayed as incompetent in the kitchen (boring, everyday housework) while they are pros at the BBQ pit (occasional, party time housework)."
Cooking provides the same level of enjoyment in any spot you do it, Amanda. Outdoors or indoors it all depends on what you make of it. And if it was the woman in front of the BBQ I'm sure you'd complain that she was the one having to cook at all; cooking being a typical stay-at-home-oppressed-woman's job.
"However, the implication is usually that men are incompetent at shit work like housework so women have to take over..."
Shit work, eh? Showing that men are usually incompetent at those "shit jobs" is as sexist as anything. Also, what about the women? You devalue their work by calling what they do shit.
"...while men do what they are good at, which is the fun stuff."
Are you kidding me right? No one could be this blatantly narrow unless it was on purpose. Men are good at the fun stuff, eh? Working on cars is a lot of fun? Fixing plumbing and light switches are fun too right? Taking out the garbage, cleaning out the rain gutters, mowing the lawn, washing the car... all fun, right?
NOT... or rather, a job is what you make of it.
Keep streeeeetching, Ryan. One day you might convince one or two people that's it just as fun to have the responsibility of getting dinner on the table by 6:00 every night after work for little or no thanks and instead have everyone complain, "We ate this last week," and getting wildly praised for tossing steaks on a grill once a month by people who are hovering over you and bringing you beer.
That's the enviroment I grew up in as did everyone else I know. But women's work is Oh So Fun.
By the way, if you ever read my homepage, you'd see that I write about how I dislike how the media infantilizes men all the time.
No one said women's work was, "Oh So Fun." This is, yet again, a lame attempt to put words in my mouth. Work of any sort is WHAT YOU MAKE OF IT. Whether you get satisfaction out of it or not is entirely on your shoulders.
Topics on your homepage:
Vulva madness
Dumbest move ever (sexual harassment against women)
The Thong-O-Mat
Feministing’s comment policy
So Much for Multiculturalism!
The Legitimacy Of An Abuse (against women)
Bush declared National Sanctity of Human Life Day (pro-choice rant)
Feel like getting pissed? (at commercials)
Pennsylvania women take on Chastity Awareness Week (women against chastity)
Teens abstain from birth control, not sex (the pill not the condom)
Feministing hearts Boxer
Language law on women needs to go
“Comfort women” fund to end in 2007
Timing is everything?
So apparently we can’t drive either
The Slippery Slope of Re-framing Reproductive Rights
Sexual Harassment in the Royal Air Force (against women)
What We Do Now
Happy Birthday to Roe...
Post-Roe Postcard
Summers apologizes (for putting down women)
Four more years. Shit.
Nothing like a little sex talk
23 topics (I may have missed a couple)
20 topics on women/women's rights/vagina's/etc
2 unrelated
1 shows any benefit to men ( Language law on women needs to go)
>12 openly male-bash
1 openly female-bash (Timing is everything?)
Is that all you are going to throw me? One topic showing men in good light compared to 22 others? I can count more than half (>12) of the articles as specifically male bashing/blaming. I'll give you credit though... you did put up *one* article showing women in less that favorable light (the one about women baring children younger rather than waiting) but that's it. That is the cross section of your homepage. That is a lot of male bashing, Amanda. Those couple token articles don't take away from the fact that this site is focused on bashing men to empower women.
"One day you might convince one or two people that's it just as fun to have the responsibility of getting dinner on the table by 6:00 every night after work for little or no thanks and instead have everyone complain"
How about you streeeeetch it a little further? What about the husbands and fathers, Amanda? Do they not go to work every day? Are they not working hard enough for you? Are you going to tell me that their jobs are "all fun" and no work? To compare something as trivial as cooking one meal during the evening (cereal for breakfast, sandwich for lunch) to someone's job (that they will work at for the next 40-50 years) is a joke. So to do the job as well as the domestic responsibilities I listed above deserves some respect. They deserve better than to be called lazy for working their asses off each day then *not* wanting to work some more when they get home. They deserve the respect you give to a man that has 2 jobs because that is exactly what you "feminists" are giving to him.
You know, without that last line at the end, that commercial *would* have been pretty funny.
Without that last line, and the spattering of lewd, bawdy, and racist (yes, Ryan, there is a racist comment, if you scroll down a bit) remarks underneath.
In fact, I'm more upset about the reaction of those people than the actual ad.
I can see how it definitely pushes the bounds, but if I had to pick a commercial to complain about, I'd go for the "how many straws can this woman put in her mouth?" people.
ryan--thanks for the statistical analysis. but dude, i think you have too much time on your hands.
jessica-thanks for the compliment. but dudette, i think I don't give a rats ass what you think of me.
oohh...scary.
though i do find your breakdown interesting in that it assumes that any post about women is male bashing. tells me more about you than about my website.
Ryan,
Shall I recommend rubbing one out...it would really calm you down, trust me.
I won't make the list again because I'm sure you can read them yourself. It isn't that any post about women is male bashing its the posts about MEN are. The ones about women are all innocuous and I could care less, but the repeated bashing of males for everything that they do is ridiculous. If you are posting for the betterment and encouragement of women that just FINE. I wouldn't be here if that is what this was about. It's when you drag all men down touting that women are superior and men are all sexists that I have to come here.
Tommy, I don't type when I'm angry or frustrated because as you can see because I'm not calling these girls names except maybe sexist and I'm not calling you a mangina for trying to help them. Your insults undermine THEIR argument. So, tommy boy, to recap; you have no arguments, facts or even an opinion so... maybe you go back to jerking your dick because that's all you are good for.
a mangina! see tommy, in ryan's world the worst thing possible would be to have a vagina. so he reallllyyy doesn't like you. congrats.
Ryan, I feel the veins popping out of your head in your writing...deep breaths. Now, I've been reading you're comments, on multiple topics here, and as far as I can see you bring no argument to the table. You spout off about hating women's studies programs, and the oppressed father(WTF?), working a job isn't the same as preparing meals...blah blah biggedy blah.
Trust me, if I could sit around jerking my dick all day...I would. You however browse and post all day to a blog with an insane fear of what you desire the most...a woman.
A mangina is a programed man, Jessica. Programmed that women need all the help and men need none. Tommy will never believe that women can do wrong or men can do enough good to make up for the 'thousands of years of oppression' you have faced.
I concede, Tommy, that you are right. I am afraid of women. I am so very afraid I can only communcate with them through the internet so they won't hurt me or make fun of my acne covered face. And, I masterbate all day, especially when I read feministing.com. Those women that I do have in my life are locked in the basement as well. Also I'm a polygamist, which means I have more than one woman locked in the basement. What can I say, I like the way I am.
Tommy, you don't really think I'm the only Ryan here do you? Don't answer that; it's rhetorical.
Didn't say men don't work or that it isn't unpleasant. Just said they had to do less unpleasant work around the house. Occassionally fixing something broken isn't the same as constantly cleaning up.
Do you think women don't work, do you really? I work 40 hours a week, same as my man. I would like to make what he does for the same amount. As for the housework, well, in my house he does his half, which I guess make you think he's whipped. But he's really just not an asshole is all.